Is (casual) European touring ruined forever?

PaulAbroad replied on 13/09/2023 12:25

Posted on 13/09/2023 12:25

We've been caravanning abroad for 40+years covering the majority of European countries, but this year something has changed. 

When the kids were small we had to holiday during August but rarely, if ever, booked ahead but it was rarely a problem finding a pitch, although it was obviously busy. When we were able to delay until September things were so much more relaxed with plenty of pitches to choose from at any site. 

This year the enjoyment has been somewhat curtailed with lots of ringing around required and many sites being full. Some sites that do offer a pitch shove you in a tight spot somewhere just to do you a favour. We started at Orleans, then Lyon, both very busy but some availability. Moving down to Cote d'azur (yes I know it's popular) everywhere is rammed and we ended up in a site's 'waiting room' area for three nights. Moving over the border into Italy... same problem with outfits being packed in like sardines. 

So onto Annecy, surely there would be plenty of availability? Nope, full signs everywhere but we were squeezed into a pitch on yet another rammed site. Ten minutes later and we wouldn't have even had that. I can't believe this is happening in September.

So... is it the case that the pandemic saw such huge increases in campervan/motorhome ownership - not many caravans about - there just isn't the capacity any longer? Looks like a big rethink is required for future holidays. Booking ahead the whole holiday? Never done that and don't intend to. Just find places that aren't as popular? Well of course there's a reason places are popular...

I'd be interested in the experiences and observations of others.

Wherenext replied on 13/09/2023 20:05

Posted on 13/09/2023 20:05

Haven't been abroad this year but last May/June we had 5 weeks in the Netherlands.

They like their touring but we only booked a couple of sites that were either in tourist spot areas or fell during Ascension and Pentecost holiday periods.

Rang other sites a few days before going to that area. Didn't encounter any problems.

About as near to casual as I'm likely to get with a caravan behind me.

A lot different for Motorhomes who are at an advantage over 'vanners abroad.

PaulAbroad replied on 13/09/2023 20:58

Posted on 13/09/2023 20:05 by Wherenext

Haven't been abroad this year but last May/June we had 5 weeks in the Netherlands.

They like their touring but we only booked a couple of sites that were either in tourist spot areas or fell during Ascension and Pentecost holiday periods.

Rang other sites a few days before going to that area. Didn't encounter any problems.

About as near to casual as I'm likely to get with a caravan behind me.

A lot different for Motorhomes who are at an advantage over 'vanners abroad.

Posted on 13/09/2023 20:58

I can't imagine encountering problems in the Netherlands - they're all in other European countries! 

And you're certainly correct about motorhomers having an advantage. 

LLM replied on 13/09/2023 21:06

Posted on 13/09/2023 21:06

We are touring France at present. Apart from a slight difficulty with one site infested with lover of the game that uses a strangely shaped ball 🏉😂 requiring booking we have had no real difficulty going as we please.  Incidentally, the infestation has moved on but it was great fun while it lasted 👍.

Wherenext replied on 13/09/2023 21:43

Posted on 13/09/2023 20:58 by PaulAbroad

I can't imagine encountering problems in the Netherlands - they're all in other European countries! 

And you're certainly correct about motorhomers having an advantage. 

Posted on 13/09/2023 21:43

Out of 8 sites stopped at 4 were full for at least a few days.

The Dutch don't all export themselves, just seems like they dolaughing. In many ways they "tour" mainly in caravans still. There might be financial reasons or storage space reasons or taxation reasons why there are, or seem to be, a higher ratio of caravan to Motorhome ownership.

LLM replied on 14/09/2023 04:21

Posted on 14/09/2023 04:21

Many motorhomers use aires which don't allow caravans.  However, the site we are on at present has both but motorhomes out number caravans about 70/30.  

Wherenext replied on 14/09/2023 16:56

Posted on 14/09/2023 16:56

I must admit to shuddering when I saw your photo Peedee.

The mere thought of spending my free time cheek by jowl on such an aire gives me the heeby-jeebies.surprised

Good luck to those that don't mind but its just not my thing.

peedee replied on 14/09/2023 20:47

Posted on 14/09/2023 20:47

I half expected such a comment but it is perfectly fine for a night stop WN. ANPR entry and exit €9 per night. Hundreds of others obviously agreed otherwise it would not have been so full..

peedee

Wherenext replied on 14/09/2023 21:21

Posted on 14/09/2023 21:21

Good job we're all slightly different in likes and dislikes Peedee. I agree they are VFM and help with a Safety in numbers etc.

I have no problem with Aires or people that use them but I wouldn't want to be one of them. 

young thomas replied on 14/09/2023 22:09

Posted on 14/09/2023 22:09

Le Croty is popular as it's ideally placed for those who have just crossed to Calais to pull in after an hour or so....it's on a recognised route southwards into and through France.

most folk will just be sleeping and then off in the morning, this isn't camping but 'stopping over'. Quite a difference.

if we want to 'camp' and enjoy resting, swimming, walking, cycling, eating and drinking it will be at a site that's spacious and has 'relaxing' facilities.

if we are just pulling in for a 'stopover' as part of visiting a town or city, an aire is exactly what we want.

paying two or three times the level to overnight on a site that we won't make use of seems a waste...

to tour in the above mode doesn't feel on the point of extinction to us...I'll let you know shortly (if we ever get away....lol).

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