Is (casual) European touring ruined forever?

PaulAbroad replied on 13/09/2023 12:25

Posted on 13/09/2023 12:25

We've been caravanning abroad for 40+years covering the majority of European countries, but this year something has changed. 

When the kids were small we had to holiday during August but rarely, if ever, booked ahead but it was rarely a problem finding a pitch, although it was obviously busy. When we were able to delay until September things were so much more relaxed with plenty of pitches to choose from at any site. 

This year the enjoyment has been somewhat curtailed with lots of ringing around required and many sites being full. Some sites that do offer a pitch shove you in a tight spot somewhere just to do you a favour. We started at Orleans, then Lyon, both very busy but some availability. Moving down to Cote d'azur (yes I know it's popular) everywhere is rammed and we ended up in a site's 'waiting room' area for three nights. Moving over the border into Italy... same problem with outfits being packed in like sardines. 

So onto Annecy, surely there would be plenty of availability? Nope, full signs everywhere but we were squeezed into a pitch on yet another rammed site. Ten minutes later and we wouldn't have even had that. I can't believe this is happening in September.

So... is it the case that the pandemic saw such huge increases in campervan/motorhome ownership - not many caravans about - there just isn't the capacity any longer? Looks like a big rethink is required for future holidays. Booking ahead the whole holiday? Never done that and don't intend to. Just find places that aren't as popular? Well of course there's a reason places are popular...

I'd be interested in the experiences and observations of others.

JimE replied on 15/09/2023 13:22

Posted on 15/09/2023 13:22

My profile picture was taken at Le Crotoy aire on the way home in October.

It does get rammed in peak season but it is a very convenient overnight stop outside those times, with a lovely walk alongside the moorings into a charming small town with lots of seafood restaurants.

SteveL replied on 15/09/2023 14:14

Posted on 14/09/2023 20:47 by peedee

I half expected such a comment but it is perfectly fine for a night stop WN. ANPR entry and exit €9 per night. Hundreds of others obviously agreed otherwise it would not have been so full..

peedee

Posted on 15/09/2023 14:14

They also have the big advantage of being available in October when so many of the sites in France have shut up shop. Even some of the ones that advertise they are open.

peedee replied on 15/09/2023 18:35

Posted on 15/09/2023 18:35

Le Croytoy is open all year, I have used it in the winter months. I think there is also a Camping de Mon Village site in the vicinity as well. I steered clear of it because it is described as more suited to smaller motorhomes.

peedee

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eurortraveller replied on 15/09/2023 20:59

Posted on 15/09/2023 20:59

Here’s an alternative on the north coast of France - also open all year round.

SteveL replied on 15/09/2023 21:01

Posted on 15/09/2023 21:01

Some Aires are a transient stop, others are very much a place to spend a couple of days leisure time. It so much depends on the Aire and its location. We recently spent a couple of nights at one in a ski resort in the Jura, of the 38 places only 4 / 5 were occupied.

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Wherenext replied on 15/09/2023 22:06

Posted on 15/09/2023 22:06

Oh well, it’s fine for motorhomers, but you wouldn’t see me spending leisure time in such a place” aspect shows the great gulf. If we pull into an Aire, we are not “spending leisure time” but “getting our heads down time”, en route to a desirable, destination, leisure time place, as YT explained. I suppose caravanners don't "get it".

A rather condescending view, particularly as I was at pains to state I understood why Motorhomers would use such places. I do in fact "get it"! 

I just don't wish to, or most times cannot,  pitch my caravan there. 

As the OP is a caravanner the type of "casual touring" referred to by him isn't to be found on Aires as shown in Peedee's post.

Jamsdad replied on 15/09/2023 22:14

Posted on 15/09/2023 22:14

Getting back to the original question....

My observations this summer are that NW France is significantly busier than in recent years, wheras Provence is notably quieter. My suspicion is that after last summers very very hot weather, ther is a trend towards the northern coasts and away from the south. Having said that I had no troiuble getting a pitch anywhere in France in August, generally making a booking two or three days in advance of turning up. As usual, site empty significantly after 14 August and by the last week in August nowhere seemed to be full.

Tammygirl replied on 15/09/2023 22:52

Posted on 15/09/2023 22:52

We are crossing in the next few days and anticipate it to be no different to the last 2 years. Yes some sites are busy as are some areas of France and Spain.

We were over in April, May and June this year and did come across some sites that were busy, don't think we saw a Complet sign out anywhere, though some sites were only taking those who had booked. 

This spring certainly was busier than last but many folk were not yet back into travelling after Covid. In 2021 and 2022 we hardly saw a Brit outfit, this year there were many and not just the oldies, lots of younger folk out even just for a couple of weeks. We spoke to quite a few young families who were taking a year out to travel before the children started school. Can't remember ever coming across any before.

Times are changing and it's not just here in the UK, many across Europe are seeing things differently since Covid. 

I never thought I could spend any time on an aire especially a busy one. I'm glad to say I did give it a try and thankfully it was OK. To be honest some Aires are quieter than campsites and not so busy. 

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