Servicing calls at CLs for Motorcaravans

Biggarmac replied on 18/01/2021 17:08

Posted on 18/01/2021 17:08

In 2020 when lockdown was lifted in July there was a surge of members desperate to get out in their units.  Sites were swamped and in some areas it was impossible to find a site.  Many motorcaravanners who had not previously gone off grid (I refuse to use the term wildcamp) found they had no choice.  I was lucky to get three nights on a CL at Blairgowrie during a 10 night tour. and one night on a commercial campsite in the Great Glen.  On other nights I stayed in Pub carparks where I was able to enjoy a meal, in forestry carparks, on coastal carparks and on friends drives.

The big problem was disposing of wastes and filling with water.  Friends with drives were very helpful, but the problem of lack of the type facilities such as there is on the continent was very evident.

On the continent many campsites allow non residents on to service their units, for a fee.  It could be an additional revenue stream for CL owners to allow passing trade to use their service points.  This would be particularly useful for CLs who are full to supplement their income and to reduce the problems which were seem in many popular tourist hotspots last year.  The owners would need to look at what extra costs they would have for this service and what services they would be able to provide.  For instance how much does 100 litres of water cost on a metered supply?  How much each toilet emptying would add to the cost of sewerage?  How much for emptying a greywater supply of say 80 litres?  For comparison the CCC, on some sites, allow members to use site facilities, empty wastes and fill water for £7.30 (last years price).  That also allows for the use of showers.

This would stop the complaint that one night stopovers to dump and fill are blocking longer bookings.  A drop in facility could be a bonus for both CL owners and Motorcaravanners.

Tinwheeler replied on 25/01/2021 15:07

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:07

Well said, Ocsid. Some of us have made similar points throughout the thread but mostly only the CL owners seem to realise the practical issues.

replied on 25/01/2021 15:14

Posted on 25/01/2021 13:52 by MikeyA

I much prefer a light duty cover at ground level, remove the cover, up turn the cassette and let it just sit there whilst it empties. No chance of it falling over and discharging its contents over me. Then using a hosepipe it is very easy to flush. No need to even hold the cassette. Anything higher than knee height is asking for a disaster. 

I have used dozens of different types of CCEP over the years and I would put the CAMC design right at the top of the list of bad design.

 

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:14

Much prefer thigh height as far easier for me to handle with my spine or other joints than reaching down and easier whilst rinsing out as well

Cornersteady replied on 25/01/2021 15:21

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:07 by Tinwheeler

Well said, Ocsid. Some of us have made similar points throughout the thread but mostly only the CL owners seem to realise the practical issues.

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:21

+1

replied on 25/01/2021 15:40

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:29 by JVB66
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Posted on 25/01/2021 15:40

I have used a number of different design disposal points. The standard detail CMC design is about the best IMO.

Comfortable work height, decent area to rest cassette to make for easy disposal and water supply conveniently placed

JVB66 replied on 25/01/2021 16:40

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:40 by

I have used a number of different design disposal points. The standard detail CMC design is about the best IMO.

Comfortable work height, decent area to rest cassette to make for easy disposal and water supply conveniently placed

Posted on 25/01/2021 16:40

I  agree the same, compared to others we have seen on sites and as i posted even some make a mess using them, let alone what mess they could make with  just a hole in the groundwink

MikeyA replied on 25/01/2021 16:43

Posted on 25/01/2021 15:40 by

I have used a number of different design disposal points. The standard detail CMC design is about the best IMO.

Comfortable work height, decent area to rest cassette to make for easy disposal and water supply conveniently placed

Posted on 25/01/2021 16:43

The problem with the CAMC design is that it is too large. The whole idea ( in my opinion) is to be able to discharge the cassette directly into the outlet pipe which is impossible with the CAMC design, the solids slide across the white plastic!. It would be far better if it was a quarter the size. 

On many CLs you seen them use a standard WC, which is a better idea.

cyberyacht replied on 25/01/2021 16:53

Posted on 25/01/2021 16:53

We do seem to be digressing a bit, but grey disposal on CLs is often lacking for "both" caravans and MH's. Perhaps some of you have rippling biceps and can lift a full wastemaster with ease.

replied on 25/01/2021 16:56

Posted on 25/01/2021 16:43 by MikeyA

The problem with the CAMC design is that it is too large. The whole idea ( in my opinion) is to be able to discharge the cassette directly into the outlet pipe which is impossible with the CAMC design, the solids slide across the white plastic!. It would be far better if it was a quarter the size. 

On many CLs you seen them use a standard WC, which is a better idea.

Posted on 25/01/2021 16:56

With my Lidl Bio tabs there are no solids, just liquid and the funnel rinses easily.

And I like having somewhere at a sensible at a reasonable height to rest the cassette easily

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