Network Shrinkage

cyberyacht replied on 11/01/2018 17:09

Posted on 11/01/2018 17:09

I see from the current magazine that we have lost a further 13 CLs with no new ones at all this month. Particularly disconcerting is that yet another one that I have visited has closed. I'm beginning to wonder if a visit from me is the "kiss of death".

Why are we seeing this inexorable decline? Is it the increasing desire for full facilities which make it uneconomic for small operators, a shortage of "a new generation of adventurers"or whatever that buzzphrase was, the minimal cash return that make owners think "it's not worth the bother" or is it really all my fault?

Wherenext replied on 23/01/2018 19:39

Posted on 23/01/2018 19:39

I have a feeling that we may have stayed there when a CL. If the same one the site used to be "run" in the name of 2 people and there used to be a small road separating two fields both allowing 5 units on each. If the same one then it was fine as we used it twice. Not that many in Brigg.

Have to check my records when back home.

Wherenext replied on 23/01/2018 19:47

Posted on 23/01/2018 19:47

Of course it would be nice if someone who looks after these affairs at EG could come on here and explain whether or not the club are actually bothered about losing CLs or are lobbying through channels to allow the expansion of those that can accommodate it, maybe based on a larger footprint per unit than that found on club sites. But of course they're not likely to mingle with us great unwashed.

SELL replied on 23/01/2018 23:52

Posted on 23/01/2018 16:36 by Cherokee2015

Hi Sell

I do know this site as we used to visit when it first opened.    Haven't been in a while so obviously some changes.     May give it another try.

Posted on 23/01/2018 23:52

for me Moonstone 40 mins from home and pitch fee which includes fishing is a bargain for me, well worth another try.

SELL replied on 23/01/2018 23:55

Posted on 23/01/2018 18:49 by nelliethehooker

Thanks for that, SELL. Looks like the type of site we might use if we can't get onto College Farm, CL..

Posted on 23/01/2018 23:55

Hi Nelliethehooker,, don't know if you use facebook but they have a page on there with plenty of photos for you to look at.

SELL replied on 23/01/2018 23:58

Posted on 23/01/2018 19:39 by Wherenext

I have a feeling that we may have stayed there when a CL. If the same one the site used to be "run" in the name of 2 people and there used to be a small road separating two fields both allowing 5 units on each. If the same one then it was fine as we used it twice. Not that many in Brigg.

Have to check my records when back home.

Posted on 23/01/2018 23:58

Hi Wherenext, the site is run by a couple, site is in a small village called Bonby not actually in Brigg so doubt it was the one use used the site is only one field.

Cherokee2015 replied on 24/01/2018 11:08

Posted on 23/01/2018 18:49 by nelliethehooker

Thanks for that, SELL. Looks like the type of site we might use if we can't get onto College Farm, CL..

Posted on 24/01/2018 11:08

We love College Farm - that's our weekend retreat laughing

Wherenext replied on 24/01/2018 16:49

Posted on 24/01/2018 16:49

Ta, Sell. Think the village was Barnetby-le-Wold but having had a look in the sites directory can only see 1 site listed. I'm sure that there used to be 2 sites in the same family name. You could see the occasional flight coming into "Hull" airport from the site and as the site was higher than the landing area the planes used to appear below you (unless of course they were taking off).

Looks like another CL gone then.

nelliethehooker replied on 24/01/2018 19:14

Posted on 23/01/2018 23:55 by SELL

Hi Nelliethehooker,, don't know if you use facebook but they have a page on there with plenty of photos for you to look at.

Posted on 24/01/2018 19:14

Thanks, SELL. I'll have a look at their FB page.

Vulcan replied on 25/01/2018 11:03

Posted on 25/01/2018 11:03

Do members who continually advocate allowing more units on CL'c really understand the complexity of the issue. CL owners are allowed the extraordinarily unusual advantage of setting up a site without the need for planning approval due to the fact that the site is small and unobtrusive. If they wish to extend the site they are completely within their rights to apply for planning approval for a larger site.
Many local councils and individuals hate the unusual advantages afforded to CL's due to the fact that planning approval is not required and the most likely outcome of a protracted discussion on the number of units on a CL would be the end of the concession.
I have used CL's for 40 years now and in all that time sites have closed and new ones opened due to different circumstances, and most of the ones I use are happy with their lot. To a certain extent members are their own enemies in as much as they are demanding too much from CL's like internet booking, demanding full site facilities and perfectly manicured grass etc, and then they wonder why CL's are pricing themselves out of the market.

obbernockle replied on 25/01/2018 11:28

Posted on 25/01/2018 11:03 by Vulcan

Do members who continually advocate allowing more units on CL'c really understand the complexity of the issue. CL owners are allowed the extraordinarily unusual advantage of setting up a site without the need for planning approval due to the fact that the site is small and unobtrusive. If they wish to extend the site they are completely within their rights to apply for planning approval for a larger site.
Many local councils and individuals hate the unusual advantages afforded to CL's due to the fact that planning approval is not required and the most likely outcome of a protracted discussion on the number of units on a CL would be the end of the concession.
I have used CL's for 40 years now and in all that time sites have closed and new ones opened due to different circumstances, and most of the ones I use are happy with their lot. To a certain extent members are their own enemies in as much as they are demanding too much from CL's like internet booking, demanding full site facilities and perfectly manicured grass etc, and then they wonder why CL's are pricing themselves out of the market.

Posted on 25/01/2018 11:28

That post is absolutely spot on. Well said.

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