Network Shrinkage

cyberyacht replied on 11/01/2018 17:09

Posted on 11/01/2018 17:09

I see from the current magazine that we have lost a further 13 CLs with no new ones at all this month. Particularly disconcerting is that yet another one that I have visited has closed. I'm beginning to wonder if a visit from me is the "kiss of death".

Why are we seeing this inexorable decline? Is it the increasing desire for full facilities which make it uneconomic for small operators, a shortage of "a new generation of adventurers"or whatever that buzzphrase was, the minimal cash return that make owners think "it's not worth the bother" or is it really all my fault?

JohnM20 replied on 23/01/2018 11:22

Posted on 22/01/2018 19:23 by Tinwheeler

So why doesn’t the CL owner seek planning permission and convert his CL into a full blown commercial site if the demand is there? Instead, he risks losing his current exemption and losing the club it’s right granted by Natural England to issue exemption certificates, as well as the Council being on very shaky ground by exceeding its authority. The right to breach the regs is not within their remit.

Posted on 23/01/2018 11:22

By becoming a full blown site will still remove another members only CL from those available to us. Things change over the years. The five van rule was established 60 years ago (I believe) when caravans were  not very common at all. It just needs the will of those involved to make changes happen.

Tinwheeler replied on 23/01/2018 13:22

Posted on 23/01/2018 11:22 by JohnM20

By becoming a full blown site will still remove another members only CL from those available to us. Things change over the years. The five van rule was established 60 years ago (I believe) when caravans were  not very common at all. It just needs the will of those involved to make changes happen.

Posted on 23/01/2018 13:22

I’m not against having the regulations changed but risking everything by breaching the current regs really isn’t the way to do it.

Campaign, by all means, but do it in the correct manner.

Frankly, any CL that regularly flouts his exemption licence wouldn’t get my business anyway.

SELL replied on 23/01/2018 13:38

Posted on 23/01/2018 10:19 by Cherokee2015

 Would you like to share SELL, always interested in new places to try.

Posted on 23/01/2018 13:38

Of course Moonstone, site is Woodside Caravan park, Bonby nr Brigg DN20 0PL, has 5 hard standing and 5 grass pitches, fishing lake and toilet block no showers though £15 per night.

JVB66 replied on 23/01/2018 13:48

Posted on 23/01/2018 11:22 by JohnM20

By becoming a full blown site will still remove another members only CL from those available to us. Things change over the years. The five van rule was established 60 years ago (I believe) when caravans were  not very common at all. It just needs the will of those involved to make changes happen.

Posted on 23/01/2018 13:48

The "will"these days seems to be "some one should"and then moan when "some one"is satisfied alreadyundecided

eurortraveller replied on 23/01/2018 14:24

Posted on 23/01/2018 14:24

The other Club is losing them too - a CS on a farm down here in Cornwall which won awards when a member of the C&CC has expanded to become a fully fledged campsite open to all. They now have 5 hard standing pitches plus 30 on grass spread over 5 acres, so are not cramming them in, plus caravan storage behind the farm - all legal and properly licensed and fully equipped - and it still scores 10 out of 10 on UKCS reviews. It's an obvious progression for farmers who want to diversify.

Tinwheeler replied on 23/01/2018 14:34

Posted on 23/01/2018 14:24 by eurortraveller

The other Club is losing them too - a CS on a farm down here in Cornwall which won awards when a member of the C&CC has expanded to become a fully fledged campsite open to all. They now have 5 hard standing pitches plus 30 on grass spread over 5 acres, so are not cramming them in, plus caravan storage behind the farm - all legal and properly licensed and fully equipped - and it still scores 10 out of 10 on UKCS reviews. It's an obvious progression for farmers who want to diversify.

Posted on 23/01/2018 14:34

It’s the obvious and sensible thing to do, Euro, when circumstances permit and the site owner is to be congratulated for doing things in the correct manner and providing more pitches.

A CL/CS is not lost to members when this happens but is still there to be enjoyed by all.

Cherokee2015 replied on 23/01/2018 16:36

Posted on 23/01/2018 13:38 by SELL

Of course Moonstone, site is Woodside Caravan park, Bonby nr Brigg DN20 0PL, has 5 hard standing and 5 grass pitches, fishing lake and toilet block no showers though £15 per night.

Posted on 23/01/2018 16:36

Hi Sell

I do know this site as we used to visit when it first opened.    Haven't been in a while so obviously some changes.     May give it another try.

Fisherman replied on 23/01/2018 17:13

Posted on 23/01/2018 17:13

Tinwheel - That's why we think the CC should be making enquiries etc of the right people to see if a change is possible without any risk. As we know the Govment want to free up planning so this could be the right time before we loose even more sites.  Likewise the local authorities have no wish to get involved in policing the 5 rule so whats the risk/problem

JVB66 replied on 23/01/2018 17:20

Posted on 23/01/2018 17:13 by Fisherman

Tinwheel - That's why we think the CC should be making enquiries etc of the right people to see if a change is possible without any risk. As we know the Govment want to free up planning so this could be the right time before we loose even more sites.  Likewise the local authorities have no wish to get involved in policing the 5 rule so whats the risk/problem

Posted on 23/01/2018 17:20

Until all the "camping"organizations get together and present a united front there is little chance of getting the law changed

nelliethehooker replied on 23/01/2018 18:49

Posted on 23/01/2018 13:38 by SELL

Of course Moonstone, site is Woodside Caravan park, Bonby nr Brigg DN20 0PL, has 5 hard standing and 5 grass pitches, fishing lake and toilet block no showers though £15 per night.

Posted on 23/01/2018 18:49

Thanks for that, SELL. Looks like the type of site we might use if we can't get onto College Farm, CL..

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