Network Shrinkage

cyberyacht replied on 11/01/2018 17:09

Posted on 11/01/2018 17:09

I see from the current magazine that we have lost a further 13 CLs with no new ones at all this month. Particularly disconcerting is that yet another one that I have visited has closed. I'm beginning to wonder if a visit from me is the "kiss of death".

Why are we seeing this inexorable decline? Is it the increasing desire for full facilities which make it uneconomic for small operators, a shortage of "a new generation of adventurers"or whatever that buzzphrase was, the minimal cash return that make owners think "it's not worth the bother" or is it really all my fault?

tigerfish replied on 20/01/2018 20:33

Posted on 20/01/2018 20:33

I do not expect or tend to use hardstandings. I much prefer grass and within reason can level my caravan on most sloping ground.

I have been caravanning for about 40 years and love the freedom of it, although do very much appreciate the facilities that a modern caravan offers.  I hate with a passion the extreme regimentation that crept into the Caravan Club a few years ago, which led to serried ranks of caravans, and wardens that had an attack of the vapours if anyone wanted to pitch across the pitch Continental fashion.

It was that and the rapid increase of club site prices that decided me to adopt a policy of only using CL's and small commercial sites at the expense of using CC Club sites.  I don't think I have exceeded £15 per night ever since and usually £12-14 is the norm.

I think that many new members to caravanning have the erroneous impression that CL's are very basic.  It is true that that was once the case, but today they have stepped up to the plate and modernised themselves.  Most now offer UHU's and many offer individual water taps to each pitch.  Toilets are appearing, and the grassy areas now usually mowed to a high standard.  One CL in Kelgetty Pembrokeshire, even provided, tea Coffee and biscuits on arrival to refresh us from our journey prior to erecting our awning!

At 73 now, my caravanning days are limited, but I still appreciate the freedom that it offers,  I will never return to the regimentation of club sites, or recognise the new walls ice cream CC logo!

TF

 

 

Fisherman replied on 21/01/2018 09:36

Posted on 21/01/2018 09:36

Like you Tigerfish. This could be our last  touring year ( Old age catches up)) and whilst the shrinkage in Cls will not unduly affect us I fear the future is bleak. The 5 rule will prove to be the most decisive factor as that number is not finacially viable for anyone considering EHU and H/s which is a basic for most users on a year round basis. There could be a lovely M/H for sale later this year, much as I regret having to take that decision.

JohnM20 replied on 22/01/2018 16:07

Posted on 19/01/2018 15:45 by eurortraveller

Instead of having motorhomes along the sea front on Queens Drive, six weeks ago Exmouth council approved the settng up of 70 Motorhome pitches for up to three nights in car parks in the town.

So how many CLs  in the area will thrive? And as the number of motorhomes increase and other councils follow the lead of Exmouth the shrinkage of CLs in other places will inevitably continue. 

 

Posted on 22/01/2018 16:07

On the other hand, I know of a CL that has masses of space and could easily accommodate 20+ units. Because of motorhomes parking up on the seafront awaiting the ferries, according to the CL owner the council has turned a very blind eye if more than 5 units are on the CL. This 'arrangement' obviously seems to suit everyone.

Tinwheeler replied on 22/01/2018 19:23

Posted on 22/01/2018 16:07 by JohnM20

On the other hand, I know of a CL that has masses of space and could easily accommodate 20+ units. Because of motorhomes parking up on the seafront awaiting the ferries, according to the CL owner the council has turned a very blind eye if more than 5 units are on the CL. This 'arrangement' obviously seems to suit everyone.

Posted on 22/01/2018 19:23

So why doesn’t the CL owner seek planning permission and convert his CL into a full blown commercial site if the demand is there? Instead, he risks losing his current exemption and losing the club it’s right granted by Natural England to issue exemption certificates, as well as the Council being on very shaky ground by exceeding its authority. The right to breach the regs is not within their remit.

Fisherman replied on 22/01/2018 19:27

Posted on 22/01/2018 19:27

Tintwheeler- Its reality not some "should be rule.".Its what happens everywhere.. Bet there would be no problem if he applied. nodded through without a full planning meeting, but if he gets lots anyway why bother.

Tinwheeler replied on 22/01/2018 19:35

Posted on 22/01/2018 19:35

Indeed, why bother at all if you don’t care that the club could lose its right to issue exemption certificates. After all, none of us ever use CLs so it wouldn’t matter in the least.yell

nelliethehooker replied on 22/01/2018 19:44

Posted on 22/01/2018 19:44

I think that one of the reasons that CL owners don't want become small full blown commercial sites as they would loose the free advertising to a huge number of potential visitors, ie CC members, . They would then have to pay for advertisements in web sites such as UKcamping.

SELL replied on 22/01/2018 23:12

Posted on 22/01/2018 23:12

I have used a site which until last year was a CL, now they have become a small commercial site with a max of 10 units, they advertise for free on facebook by setting up their own page and by all accounts are full on weekends even at this time of year, summer months full for most of the time.

Cherokee2015 replied on 23/01/2018 10:19

Posted on 22/01/2018 23:12 by SELL

I have used a site which until last year was a CL, now they have become a small commercial site with a max of 10 units, they advertise for free on facebook by setting up their own page and by all accounts are full on weekends even at this time of year, summer months full for most of the time.

Posted on 23/01/2018 10:19

 Would you like to share SELL, always interested in new places to try.

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook