Posted on 19/01/2017 20:23
Prior to the new year there were 3 months when the number of new CL's exceeded the number that had closed, however the reverse is the case in the January magazine with 4 new sites but the closure of 12. Could this be because of the lack of support from HO for CL's that is now becoming apparent from the way that the new web site is treating them?
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Posted on 26/01/2017 16:53 by HelenandTrevorI see in February's magazine there are another 12 closures, and no new CL's . 😢
Posted on 26/01/2017 11:44 by SurferIs there anything stopping a CL from breaking away from the club and operating on their own? I know of a few CLs that have done this and now they are busier.
Posted on 26/01/2017 20:32
Maybe, just maybe, people such as myself who are wedded to the 5 van rule might have to change their view slightly in order to preserve the existence of a small CL type site.
What if the law was changed and allowed a maximum of 10 units, but only if there was a minimum space set aside for accomodating each unit based on the rules for current CLs. Then owners might decide to upgrade facilities or bring in hardstandings or leave some pitches without EHU and basic with a lower price per night for those who like basic sites.
If we CL lovers faced the steady but inexorable reduction in CL numbers would we be prepared to compromise our long held doctrine of a 5 unit site?
If there was a consensus then the club would have to use its collective weight to lobby parliament.
So would you be prepared to compromise?
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Posted on 26/01/2017 20:19 by WherenextFunny you should mention that.
One of the sites reviewed in the Feb Mag sited in the Midlands started off as a CL but is now a 58 pitch site, Hanbury I think. Can't check as the mags in the recycling bin and its outside for collection tomorrow.
Posted on 26/01/2017 20:39
Yes, Harbury Fields used to be a CL, we used it when it was one, quite a few years ago. Even then it had a second field for permanent vans and was building new toilet facilities.
With regard to the raising the number of allowed vans to 10 depending on the size of the site, you know what would happen....some sites would just cram in as many as they could, with little room btween the vans.... they do it now with a 5 van limit!!
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Posted on 26/01/2017 21:43 by LongtimecaravannerI might be prepared to compromise on the number of units on a site up to seven or eight if the pictures showed the area was big enough, but I am not prepared to accept there being more units than is stated.
Posted on 27/01/2017 13:34
LTC - I was only advocating a possibility if and when legislation changed, not as things stand.
I also agree with NTH that some CLs are overcrowded and more and more seem to be accepting that 5 vans is a starting point. The point I was making about increased vans would be based on the CLs ability, area wise, to accommodate any such increase.
I sincerely wish and want there to be more CLs not less but the very fact of that this thread is up and running seems to be an indication that the opposite is true.
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Posted on 26/01/2017 09:59 by CholseyGrangeEurotraveller - you raise an excellent point. CL's have been asking the Club for a number of years to be allowed to sell Non Members a Membership when they arrive on a CL (what I'd call a 'drive-in') or call at the last minute.
So far, the Club has declined to incentivise us to do this..
- It would bring some additional members into the club and boost the revenue of the club long term
- It would be another incentive for CL owners to check Membership details
- It would align with the policy at Club Sites (where Membership can be sold)
- It would align with the policy of the C&CC (CS's earn £ from this)
- It might earn the CL's a small commission
I'm hoping, that after repeated requests, the Club suggest CL's to sell membership packs in 2017, and receive a small commission from the Club for their efforts.
Posted on 28/01/2017 09:17
We shall just have to disagree on this one.
I think it's the whole idea of membership and members only which is a straitjacket which CLs have put themselves into. A site which does that is losing half its potential customers. It doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - campsites there are open to all. They don't turn people away and they don't hand out membership forms before letting customers in.
Posted on 29/01/2017 10:03
The only way to determine an answer to the OP's question is for 'someone' to phone a number of CLs and ask them why they have been delisted. They are at liberty to not reveal why but no doubt some will give the information.
I have declined this Club's advertising brochure in magazine clothing so cannot readily identify which ones have closed.
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