Loosing More CLs, why?

Try looking a little harder. :-)

How many ordinary farmers and market garden owners do you know well, MichaelT? Many I know are struggling to survive, hence the absence of livestock in many areas and the growth of solar farms etc. Some have already given up the struggle.

A Disco type vehicle is a necessary piece of equipment for most farmers, not a luxury.

I feel that was a rather unfortunately worded post from you and I'm sure the farmers who use CT will be less than enamoured.

There is also the question of the economics of a worthwhile return of setup costs of the CL, and I feel for some CL owners that return is just not worth the effort put in to the CL,

Maybe we the CAMC are losing CL's to be self managed or going go the other club? The support from the website seems not to be improving. It's not easy to search for a CL. Reviews missing etc etc. If I needed the income I'd be looking at putting my site out there. If you're touring and spot a camping and caravan site CS you can join and stay subject to space, as I understand it you can't with this club. That would infuriate me if I were running one.  With regard to prices I understand that new CL's are offered suggested prices and I expect that's what they go by, if you have no experience you'd hope you'd get decent advice for becoming a CL with the Club,  I expect there's a fee involved too.

The return on the  investment required to setup a CL with all the facilities, HS, showers/toilets for 5 vans max must be minimal.

With all the advantages of these facilities, & space of course, it must be tempting to jump ship to join the C&CC & take up to 10 tents as well. Potentially tripling income overnight.

There's also now the Freedom Camping Club with the same style exemption certificate. Looking at their website they also feature loads of sites catering for a lot more than 5  vans.

Some sites on there freely state they started as CL/CS but are now taking 15, 20 or more units.

Looking at the April magazine I read that there are 4 new CLs but 15 that have closed, in the words of the magazine, "since the 2017/18 Handbook was published and since the March magazine. We've only just received the handbooks so at that rate there'll be no CLs left by the end of the year.

Main cc sites are going the same way

New Cls need to be more proactive in advertising their site here. Dont expect the club do much for you. It will be 2 years before a new book is out with your Cl in it.

We have had 10 cancellations in April, 4 of which didn't bother to notify us, 1 turned up, during a power cut in our area, complained to my wife, via the 'phone,that they were cold and left, other members staying here said they were here for no more than half an hour! 2 cancelled the night before they were due to arrive. If members are going to treat CL owners like this, is it any surprise why they look elsewhere to make an income from their sites? We could have booked many more vans in over the bank holiday weekends but stuck to the rules and paid for it with a considerable amount of lost revenue. I know I'm whinging but very fed up.EV

I'm really sorry to hear that and am inclined to agree with why bother.

Do you charge a deposit? Maybe you need to or the full amount for less than x days.  

We use CL and club sites but wouldn't dear of treating either in this way. We'd be happy to pay deposits.