Increase size of CLs?

I am sure that I speak for many who post on here, particularly on the CL section, when I say that many of us are only members because of the wonderful CL section, so no thoughts of it being the poor mans section it is good to see lots of new ideas, new products and facilities. We are currently still enjoying some delicious eggs bought on our last CL visit, we hate shop eggs, having had our own chickens! The diversity of ideas, facilities and locations provide something for almost every visitor, and I for one am grateful for what is provided and the work and expenditure committed. Hope your idea works Oly!

5 van max. Minimum facilities and under £10 per night. If CL's want to put in all the bells and whistles then they should be called Super CL's and charge whatever people will pay. 

Long live the true CL because if they are being pushed by the CC into becoming super CL 's then I am out of the CC as the true CL is now the only reason we are in the CC. 

I of course appreciate others will have different opinions but these are mine 

An interesting debate.

I'm wiriting this in my van on an excellent CL.

On more than one occasion I've talked to CL owners who say it's break even at absolute best for them over a season, very little financial incentive.

If you are on a CL with just you on it your probably costing the owner money!

toilets etc are being built to try and maintain a small following to male it worthwhile.

We'd pay up to £15 a night for a CL with electricity but recently been on one near Hornsea that was £9 a night (£10 if awning used!). We want the owner to make a profit to keep them open but only 5 vans please...we love the peace and quiet. Toilets and showers - in my humble opinion, forget it. Totally unnecessary.

Never mind what members want, let's look at it from one owner's point of view.  Things are very seasonal here in Cornwall. A nearby farmer was getting long spells with almost no visitors,  but was limited to 5 vans at times when everyone wanted to come. It just wasn't worthwhile to keep cutting the grass and having the septic tank emptied to continue like that.

Her choice was to either close the site and put sheep in the field, or to get planning permission to open a second field and take 20 vans, and as well as that get planning permission to use the yard for caravan storage. Some of you will say you preferred  it as it was before. She disagrees with you, and those who go there despite the changes still give her glowing reviews.

Never mind what members want, let's look at it from one owner's point of view.  Things are very seasonal here in Cornwall. A nearby farmer was getting long spells with almost no visitors,  but was limited to 5 vans at times when everyone wanted to come. It just wasn't worthwhile to keep cutting the grass and having the septic tank emptied to continue like that.

Her choice was to either close the site and put sheep in the field, or to get planning permission to open a second field and take 20 vans, and as well as that get planning permission to use the yard for caravan storage. Some of you will say you preferred  it as it was before. She disagrees with you, and those who go there despite the changes still give her glowing reviews.

Nothing wrong with that. It just shows that a range of sites suit a range of customers and a range of owners. It also demonstrates that there is no need to change the limit as the existing legislation copes with the circumstances.

Graham

No, you misunderstand me, Graham. It was either change or shut up shop. The present 5 van limit wasn't one of the options for her. 

eurortraveller, You appear to be advocating that even though the vast majority of members are happy with the five van rule you would like it changed even though you have the option to select a commercial or club site with more van’s.The system works well as it is as you demonstrated in your last post, if the CL does not pay then the option is there to obtain planning permission for a commercial site and all that entails.

Within 40mins towing time from me is Little Baddow fruit farm , they have 2 CL's , hookup , waste disposal and water .

Maybe this an option ?

Vulcan, I don't doubt that you and other members are happy with things as they are. I was simply pointing out why one local CL owner was not. The declining number of CLs shows that there are other owners who feel the same way.