Increase size of CLs?

i guess the type of customer you and i would meet on a THS would be one who wasnt much interested in toilets, showers etc on site....its a 'van thing' on a THS

so, if they start comparing prices on a CL (at £12-£15 or even more) to a typical THS price of £8-£9 then they are going to seem expensive....

add in the showers/loo thing and those CL prices start to become £15-£20 a night....for a pitch in a field

far too much for those used to a pitch in a field at half that rate

Yes thats a perfectly reasonable assesment BB

I was struck by the number who said they had dropped the CC because they were no longer interested in CL's. It used to be most were in both clubs but perhaps that is changing as full club sites are now so much and don't really appeal anyway.

Maybe its in the evolution of carvanning/motorhoming.  When first setting out you are unsure of anything so the comfort of a club or commercial site lures you in.  As you become more accustomed and more knowledgable you maybe try a CL, then you hear about THS and give them a try and you then find out what you do and dont like and make your choice.

very true, Michael. we like most flavours of site, just the overcrowded term time stuff that we find hard...hence were generally not around.

so, try a few different flavours, be brave, leave that club site behind, try a CL....

perhaps then leave the ehu cable behind and 'slum it' on a THS, you never know, you might like it....

its a bit like learning to swim, start at the shallow end where your feet can touch the bottom, and gradually move up the pool as you get stronger and more confident...

CLs are great, perhaps an aquired taste, but am happy to keep most as they are....

We use CL's, Club Sites and will be trying Sandy Balls and maybe other commercial sites in the next couple of weeks.  Likewise we mix and match and since getting the MH dont worry too much about EHU (still prefer a site toilet though) and generally go out of the main season apart fom bank holidays etc.

I am firmly in the just leave things alone as they are camp regarding CLs. If a CL isn't proving viable because of too much invested in it then the provider either hasn't got their sums right, is expecting too quick a return on investment or it just isn't perhaps in the right location, and unlikely to get the footfall. I know of a few that have done well as CLs, taken the plunge and upped the pitches legally and are now making a very nice return on a small private site, keeping the overall ambience and ethos of a CL. Likewise we have come across a couple of recently opened CLs, lots of investment put in, but frankly they will struggle because the location has issues, or they are already too expensive compared with others close by offering similar services. 

Another thing for CL owners could do to increase revenue/useage is to upload some pictures to the CC site and also have their own web site.  Does not have to be overly complicated site but to show some pictures of the site, any other interesting things such as transport links, sights to visit, local pubs/restaurants etc plus up to date prices would attract more custom.

My wife and I never use anything other than CLs for our holidays and have stayed on some brilliant sites over the last 6 years. We certainly would not wish to see the number of units increase, resulting in more noise and less space, especially on sites of 1/2acre of which there are many, but we would ask the Club to tell us why they turn a blind eye to CLs that constantly  abuse the rules and exceed the permitted number of units. The Club made the rules NOW ENFORCE THEM.

The Club did not make the rules - that's legislation.

Do you report CLs abusing the rules to CC?

TW is quite right, the rules were set by an Act of Parliament.

I don’t know if the club turns a blind eye to CL's regularly allowing more than 5. I doubt it personally because the club is very aware that the exemption scheme is not set in stone. If it was withdrawn the Club would be in trouble with members leaving en mass. 

Its therfore really important that the club is informed about regular transgressions. 

I would speak to the CL owner first just in case there is a genuine reason.