Increase size of CLs?

I like CLs for the quietness they provide rather than the large commercial options. However running a CL must be quite tying for owners having to be about everyday (unless closed). Perhaps this makes the financial return hardly worth the effort. I have been on CLs where the space even for 5 units was tight. On others there was loads of room. There could be a case for an increase where the acreage allows it. For example a range from the present 5 to say 8 or exceptionally even 10 units which would be determined by an inspector who would take into account the amount of space available. It would seem to me that matching the number to the ground would be better than just fitting 5 regardless of how little room there is. I have been on CLs where space was so tight it required a mover to site up. It would require ammendment of the local authority regulations.  

I like CLs for the quietness they provide rather than the large commercial options. However running a CL must be quite tying for owners having to be about everyday (unless closed). Perhaps this makes the financial return hardly worth the effort. I have been on CLs where the space even for 5 units was tight. On others there was loads of room. There could be a case for an increase where the acreage allows it. For example a range from the present 5 to say 8 or exceptionally even 10 units which would be determined by an inspector who would take into account the amount of space available. It would seem to me that matching the number to the ground would be better than just fitting 5 regardless of how little room there is. I have been on CLs where space was so tight it required a mover to site up. It would require ammendment of the local authority regulations.  

Some inspectors are now obviously turning a blind eye on  certain sites that continually have more than 5 van on, at present. What hope then when ones that may be of a suitable size to take say 8 vans cram in 10 or 12. 'Tis a vicious circle.

rant can people stop campaining to get cls to go larger we only stay on cls because of the 5 van rule much as i like caravans and caravaning i don't want to be looking out of the window at rows of caravans so all the people complaining go else where there is loads of choice if thats what you want and leave the cls alone 

Well said,there are plenty of larger club sites and commercial sites and at the end of the day CL owners have the legitimate option of getting planning permission for a larger site.Leave CL's alone for those of us that have appreciated them for many years.

Well said Vulcan, we completely agree.

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rant can people stop campaining to get cls to go larger we only stay on cls because of the 5 van rule much as i like caravans and caravaning i don't want to be looking out of the window at rows of caravans so all the people complaining go else where there is loads of choice if thats what you want and leave the cls alone 

Well said,there are plenty of larger club sites and commercial sites and at the end of the day CL owners have the legitimate option of getting planning permission for a larger site.Leave CL's alone for those of us that have appreciated them for many years.

Well said Vulcan, we completely agree.

I could not agree more, as the act never intended that these 5 van sites be able to exist as standalone commercial enterprises.  

have not read all the posts on this subject but the rate at which CLs are closing vastly exceeds the new ones opening, look every month in the magazine and count. So why do they close? Would a few more pitches make more stay open by increasing the income?  The quantity of 5 was established many years ago when there were a lot less caravaners.  Our last few CL stays have been at places with less than 5 units so just because a CL could have say 8 pitches does not mean rows of caravans.  We the CC should do what we can to make sure there are enough CLs around before they close and if that means campaigning to increase picth numbers then lets get on with it. 

have not read all the posts on this subject but the rate at which CLs are closing vastly exceeds the new ones opening, look every month in the magazine and count. So why do they close? Would a few more pitches make more stay open by increasing the income?  The quantity of 5 was established many years ago when there were a lot less caravaners.  Our last few CL stays have been at places with less than 5 units so just because a CL could have say 8 pitches does not mean rows of caravans.  We the CC should do what we can to make sure there are enough CLs around before they close and if that means campaigning to increase picth numbers then lets get on with it. 

CL's close for a variety of reasons, some even closing because neighbouring CL;s have robbed them of custom by illegally accepting more than five vans.If you had read the preceding posts you would know how and why the exemption certificate works as it does, the most likely outcome of a campaign for more caravans on CL's is that the site planning exemption concession would be withdrawn altogether.

rant can people stop campaining to get cls to go larger we only stay on cls because of the 5 van rule much as i like caravans and caravaning i don't want to be looking out of the window at rows of caravans so all the people complaining go else where there is loads of choice if thats what you want and leave the cls alone 

Well said,there are plenty of larger club sites and commercial sites and at the end of the day CL owners have the legitimate option of getting planning permission for a larger site.Leave CL's alone for those of us that have appreciated them for many years.

Well said Vulcan, we completely agree.

I could not agree more, as the act never intended that these 5 van sites be able to exist as standalone commercial enterprises.  

That's a bit of a grand statement, how do you know that? EV

have not read all the posts on this subject but the rate at which CLs are closing vastly exceeds the new ones opening, look every month in the magazine and count. So why do they close? Would a few more pitches make more stay open by increasing the income?  The quantity of 5 was established many years ago when there were a lot less caravaners.  Our last few CL stays have been at places with less than 5 units so just because a CL could have say 8 pitches does not mean rows of caravans.  We the CC should do what we can to make sure there are enough CLs around before they close and if that means campaigning to increase picth numbers then lets get on with it. 

Well said. At last someone talking sensibly. EV

I don't think it's sensible 

We have what we have and it's not going to change and a heck of a lot of members prefer it that way.