Increase size of CLs?

If you had read the preceding posts you would know how and why the exemption certificate works as it does, the most likely outcome of a campaign for more caravans on CL's is that the site planning exemption concession would be withdrawn altogether.

I also agree with this conclusion that any concerted effort to change our very valuable concession would be simply to lose it. There is already a simple route to getting a greater allowance where it is justifiable, apply for the releavant planning permission. Unless there is a good reason why you should not get it it has to be granted.

Why should we be exempt of meeting planning laws that others have to meet? I am sure that would be the view the legislators would take if we rock the boat. on this one.

We regularly use CL's, and enjoy doing so. We do however look for EHU, toilet facilities etc. and are prepared to pay the fees. Still cheaper than caravan club sites. However I am rather disgrunted that one or two CL's do have over the 5 limit, and have the audacity to promote themselves on 5van website. I appreciate that on occassions there maybe reasons when there is an extra caravan on site (mecical), but please have the decency to adhere to the 5van rule. This said I will continue to use CL's as they are "up my street" and I enjoy the intimacy.  

Report them.  They are in effect stealing from other local CL's and putting the network at risk

(but ask why first just in case there is a valid reason)

Posts here seem to suggest more overcrowding lately.Why I wonder?

Perhaps there are more, discerning, caravanners looking for pitches on CLs due to the high price of club sites, and those sites with more than 5 on are just reponding to the demand.

Agree Nellie. Also of course the nmber of Cls have fallen by 50% over the last few years or so. Can you really blame the owners to try and maximise income in the short busy periods.

They are fiddling the system and cheating other CL owners out of revenue.

Let them close ASAP and go commercial before they put the CL network at risk.

....similarly, in responding to customer 'demands' for toilets and showers etc, perhaps CL owners want to recoup that investment as soon as they can.....by taking in more customers?

perhaps we are hastening our own demise by the continual demand for facilities that are better suited to a commercial site.

what next?....a CL with clubhouse and swimming pool?

(though i guess there are one or two.....?)

so, 5 vans at £35 a night

A course in business accounting at the local college before putting in all the extra goodies (technical term) might have saved a few CL owners from being in the situation that they cannot make ends meet with only 5 vans on site

Perhaps there should be bands of CL sizes say 5, 10 15 & 20 then over that it has to be a commercial site.  Also to stop greedy owners trying to cram say 10 vans on a 5 van site have a minimum space requirement of X sq metres per van.  People can then make their own mind up if they want to visit a small or larger site or one with or without the extra facilities etc. 

Just a thought....