Fresh Water Solutions

BSB Tourers replied on 19/01/2018 11:16

BSB Tourers

Posted on 19/01/2018 11:16

We are brand new newbies and looking forward to our first ever motorhome trip in March.

We'd like to pick experienced brains about fresh water carriers please. We started out looking at a 40 litre Aquaroll but think it might be too bulky as we have nowhere really on board to store it. The Fiamma 23 litre looks more compact but might be too small. And to get water from the carrier into the onboard tank we seem to need some kind of submersible pump but can't see if the smaller carriers are compatible with this, or what additional pipes, connectors or kits might be needed to go with it.

Any advice gratefully received. Hope these aren't stupid questions but you've got to start somewhere!

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Takethedogalong replied on 20/01/2018 11:53

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Takethedogalong

Posted on 20/01/2018 11:23 by DavidKlyne

We were at Chatsworth in early December and in order to position the waste point over the drain I had to park across the adjacent pitch. I did note that in both the review I wrote and the survey that the CMC sent after the visit. I accept at 7.5 mts long we have a slightly larger motorhome than many but you do get the impression that motorhome waste points were an afterthought. I know the Club are addressing this but it seems a very slow process.

David

Posted on 20/01/2018 11:53

We visited one of the newest sites on the network a couple of years ago, Barnard Castle. I can't recall what the actual drain was like, but guessing one of the lift the lid types. I do recall we had to drive out of the site, and then back in through the barrier to just get to the waste point from our pitch. (We were actually leaving, after our one night stay) I honestly don't think that the Club saw the MH phenomenon arriving, it was like the Magic Roundabout with MHs circling the site!

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Navigateur replied on 20/01/2018 13:02

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Navigateur

Caravanner

Posted on 20/01/2018 13:02

So perhaps the caravan Club should try to get ahead of the game and install fully fully fully serviced pitches that each consist of a 8m long grid so that all caravans ( trailer, motor, battery, solar, unicorn fatr powered ) can dump out waste wherever the maker put the outlet.

Or perhaps they could exert influence on the manufacturers to position the outlets in a standard location, and to make them fit for purpose in terms of size and accessibility.

Now, which idea above do you think is the more fanciefull?

JVB66 replied on 20/01/2018 13:20

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JVB66

Campervanner

Posted on 20/01/2018 10:07 by DavidKlyne

The original design of motorhome waste points employed on Club sites is awful. Fortunately they are actually changing them to full width open grills which makes it easy for all motorhomes to dump waste water whether the water drains for offside, nearside or central. I am not suggesting that motorhome waste taps are perfect, far from it but at the end of the day it is the design of the site facility that makes the biggest difference.

Posted on 20/01/2018 13:20

Site facilities are having to be altered because of poor design of motor caravan waste outlets, it should be the motor caravan makers that pick up the bills,I have never seen an American RV having a problem dumping,or a fuel tanker or the hunny wagons because they have properly designed outlets on the vehicles

brue replied on 20/01/2018 13:43

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brue

Motorhomer

Posted on 20/01/2018 13:43

Motorhomes vary so much due their layouts etc, they're never going to be the same just as caravans have always varied a bit. But poorly designed and positioned Motorhome Service Points on sites often cause problems due to being difficult to use or park up in. TDA mentioned Warwick, which is really awkward, often leaving waste water running all over the roadway, in icy conditions it's awful.

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Qashqai66 replied on 20/01/2018 15:25

Qashqai66

Posted on 20/01/2018 15:25

One of our favourite CL sites has a vast concrete apron which slopes towards the centre where there is a drainage grill. I congratulated the owner on the design and he told me that the Club had insisted on it and given hm exact specifications for the task. I find that puzzling as I have never seen a similar arrangement on any other CL.

Takethedogalong replied on 20/01/2018 16:25

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Takethedogalong

Posted on 20/01/2018 16:25

I think some of the Club's inspectors are fond of giving "advice" to CL owners, although in this case it seems to be a positive step. Won't have been cheap though.

DavidKlyne replied on 20/01/2018 16:40

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DavidKlyne

Motorhomer

Posted on 20/01/2018 13:20 by JVB66

Site facilities are having to be altered because of poor design of motor caravan waste outlets, it should be the motor caravan makers that pick up the bills,I have never seen an American RV having a problem dumping,or a fuel tanker or the hunny wagons because they have properly designed outlets on the vehicles

Posted on 20/01/2018 16:40

Sorry JVB66 that is complete nonsense. Next you will be telling me that the makers of Waste Masters, used by most caravanners, should pay for the removal of all the brick lips previously used around waste water disposal points which have been replaced by the current level system? Many American RV's have a combined grey and black waste system so requires a large diameter dump point, for obvious reasons, be that by hose or direct evacuation from under the vehicle.

Tinwheeler replied on 20/01/2018 17:37

Tinwheeler

Campervanner

Posted on 20/01/2018 13:20 by JVB66

Site facilities are having to be altered because of poor design of motor caravan waste outlets, it should be the motor caravan makers that pick up the bills,I have never seen an American RV having a problem dumping,or a fuel tanker or the hunny wagons because they have properly designed outlets on the vehicles

Posted on 20/01/2018 17:37

That’s a good one, JV. You crease me up.

Tinwheeler replied on 20/01/2018 17:40

Tinwheeler

Campervanner

Posted on 20/01/2018 13:02 by Navigateur

So perhaps the caravan Club should try to get ahead of the game and install fully fully fully serviced pitches that each consist of a 8m long grid so that all caravans ( trailer, motor, battery, solar, unicorn fatr powered ) can dump out waste wherever the maker put the outlet.

Or perhaps they could exert influence on the manufacturers to position the outlets in a standard location, and to make them fit for purpose in terms of size and accessibility.

Now, which idea above do you think is the more fanciefull?

Posted on 20/01/2018 17:40

You're almost right in your first paragraph, Nav, except one drain per site would suffice.

Get your girlfriend to try lifting one of the manhole covers and you'll gain an insight into one of the issues.

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JVB66 replied on 20/01/2018 17:51

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JVB66

Campervanner

Posted on 20/01/2018 16:40 by DavidKlyne

Sorry JVB66 that is complete nonsense. Next you will be telling me that the makers of Waste Masters, used by most caravanners, should pay for the removal of all the brick lips previously used around waste water disposal points which have been replaced by the current level system? Many American RV's have a combined grey and black waste system so requires a large diameter dump point, for obvious reasons, be that by hose or direct evacuation from under the vehicle.

Posted on 20/01/2018 17:51

The removal of the brick surround has made the area a very unsafe place in cold weather as water goes every where,and all because "some"were "incapable" of useing the original design ,and RV owners seem to manage, but then they maybe have the right equipment on their vehicles,

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