Expensive CL's

steve874 replied on 06/04/2018 22:11

Posted on 06/04/2018 22:11

ive just been reading the link sent from the club re CL of the year. From £17 or even £19 a night?

When most vans have full facilities why do we have so many of this type of site? What about the quiet, peaceful site with a tap, bins and toilet disposal. 

DavidKlyne replied on 08/03/2019 17:16

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:16

I think you are wrong to suggest it's some sort of tactic by the Club to narrow the price gap between CL's and Club sites. I am sure the Club are advising CL's to charge a realistic price for what they offer in order for those CL's to survive as CL's. Even if a CL charged the same as a higher priced Club site they would be unlikely to make a lot of money!I would have thought it only common sense for the Club to discuss with CL owners current trends on pricing. At the end of the day the owner of the CL has to arrive at a price that works for them.

David 

JVB66 replied on 08/03/2019 17:23

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:23

When reading posts (very few)on the ccc members forum, it would almost seem as if they were being fed all the same negative responses about the ccc club,that appear on heresurprisedundecided

nelliethehooker replied on 08/03/2019 20:07

Posted on 08/03/2019 20:07

At the end of the day the owner of the CL has to arrive at a price that works for them.

I agree with that, but not at that "suggested" by the club representatives.

DavidKlyne replied on 08/03/2019 21:49

Posted on 08/03/2019 20:07 by nelliethehooker

At the end of the day the owner of the CL has to arrive at a price that works for them.

I agree with that, but not at that "suggested" by the club representatives.

Posted on 08/03/2019 21:49

Nellie

But surely you accept that if the Club have a new CL wanting to open that part of the discussion is likely to be about pricing as someone starting from scratch might have no idea what to charge? All the Club would do is suggest a range on pricing, probably depending on facilities offered, as a match against what other CL's are already charging. It is a little bit of a conspiracy theory to suggest the motive of the Club is to drive up CL prices. However they will have an eye to the main chance in wanting to keep CL's open so pricing and advice is important.

David

nelliethehooker replied on 08/03/2019 22:08

Posted on 08/03/2019 22:08

I cannot believe that anyone wanting to open a new CL does not know what CLs in their neighbourhood are charging. It does seem strange to me that most of the new ones opening have a price that is the same or above those around them and are offering less facilities.

DaveandVicki replied on 09/03/2019 12:53

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:23 by JVB66

When reading posts (very few)on the ccc members forum, it would almost seem as if they were being fed all the same negative responses about the ccc club,that appear on heresurprisedundecided

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:53

They have a thread on this very same subject as well.

Also they have the same suggestion that the CCC are also advising on high fees for new start ups to bring the nearer into line with the club sites.

gibbo456 replied on 09/03/2019 15:44

Posted on 09/03/2019 15:44

We have been taking meter readings every week on our CL, we have one meter which feeds our Shepherds Hut with hot tub and the shower block for the CL this has averaged about £40 per week since the beginning of Jan, the other meter feeds the CL and information hut, we have a third meter for the house, the CL and Info hut had averaged £120 per week, since we started the experiment we have had 195 nights booked and have spent 990 on electricity, an average of £5.07, February was exceptionally mild this year as during Jan the average was £7 per night.  I appreciate that over the year the average will lower but I hope this gives you an insight into how much electric is used and why CL prices are having to rise.

 

dmiller555 replied on 09/03/2019 15:54

Posted on 09/03/2019 15:44 by gibbo456

We have been taking meter readings every week on our CL, we have one meter which feeds our Shepherds Hut with hot tub and the shower block for the CL this has averaged about £40 per week since the beginning of Jan, the other meter feeds the CL and information hut, we have a third meter for the house, the CL and Info hut had averaged £120 per week, since we started the experiment we have had 195 nights booked and have spent 990 on electricity, an average of £5.07, February was exceptionally mild this year as during Jan the average was £7 per night.  I appreciate that over the year the average will lower but I hope this gives you an insight into how much electric is used and why CL prices are having to rise.

 

Posted on 09/03/2019 15:54

To which must be added an element to cover the installation and maintenance of the electrical system. 

 

young thomas replied on 10/03/2019 07:33

Posted on 09/03/2019 15:44 by gibbo456

We have been taking meter readings every week on our CL, we have one meter which feeds our Shepherds Hut with hot tub and the shower block for the CL this has averaged about £40 per week since the beginning of Jan, the other meter feeds the CL and information hut, we have a third meter for the house, the CL and Info hut had averaged £120 per week, since we started the experiment we have had 195 nights booked and have spent 990 on electricity, an average of £5.07, February was exceptionally mild this year as during Jan the average was £7 per night.  I appreciate that over the year the average will lower but I hope this gives you an insight into how much electric is used and why CL prices are having to rise.

 

Posted on 10/03/2019 07:33

good post, at last some meaningful info on how much power is being used by a typical plugged in van, especially the £7 for Jan, and a 'mild' Feb still over £5.

so, almost £50 a week in leccy in a typical uk winter week....no wonder site prices all round (club and CLs) are forever rising..

do you offer a non-EHU rate at your site?

some vanners are very 'power aware' and realise that electric cost have to be passed back to the customer....that £50 adds a whole lot to the bill for someone who may be using CLs as a budget option as club prices are also spiralling ever upward...

so, some are turning to Solar for their electrical power requirements (yes, a bit tougher in the uk in Jan, I'll grant that) and gas (perhaps much cheaper from a pump) for heating, hot water and cooking.

at the moment, both customers and suppliers (cl owners) are between a rock and a hard place in that a lot of vanners fell they 'need' EHU for their stay yet the provision of that (basic?) service is rising constantly but the supplier has little choice but to pass the cost on...

so, we get high priced CLs and much contribution to threads like these yet the Cl owners are pretty much powerless to do a lot about it.

but the customers can with a bit of a change in mindset..

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