CL Site Owners' Website

CholseyGrange replied on 14/01/2021 15:48

Posted on 14/01/2021 15:48

If you are a keen supporter of the CL network you might like to know that there's a dedicated support group for CL owners where they share best practice, information and encourage other landowners to set up new CLs. 

The group liaises with the Club on a regular basis, but like the CLs themeselves, it is entirely independent. The group receives no financial support or direction from the Club.The group was formed in 2014 and now has over 600 members.  Find out more on our website

How you can help: If you are visiting a CL and think they could benefit from advice or support from fellow CL owners, please point them in the direction of the group.  Likewise, if you know someone with a great spot for a new CL, the Owners Group website is a complementary source of information to the Clubs own guide for setting up a CL.

The group is entirely run by volunteers (all CL owners), is free to join and welcomes feedback from CAMC members, especially those with knowledge of the CL network!

JVB66 replied on 16/01/2021 11:49

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:19 by Freddy55

I’m all in favour of paying for the leccy one uses. I do though think that some folks might struggle with the concept of paying more for their pitch during the winter months, if a tiered system was introduced.

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:49

A tiered system on CLs which is from comments on here is for CLs with EHU  and being independent businesses as has been pointed out, when it was suggested a smart card system could be used ia IMHO the only other way of keeping electricity charges down is to charge more for pitches in winter ,with growth of the power hungry LVs

As is said nothing is it seems unsurmountable ,before EHU was included in pitch fees on club sites,although some will not agree ,it was quite a common practice for members to "do not need EHU" but still use it if site staff not around

January last year on a site we were on i was advised that members had been utilising "spare? EHUs to supplement the power supply to their LVs for add heating in their awnings

Cornersteady replied on 16/01/2021 11:52

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:48 by brue

By the way Corners (and anyone reading this) why not try a CL, you might be pleasantly surprised. smile

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:52

It's actually on my bucket listsmile

Seriously Mrs C is retiring at the end of the summer term so it is highly likely.

JVB66 replied on 16/01/2021 11:57

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:52 by Cornersteady

It's actually on my bucket listsmile

Seriously Mrs C is retiring at the end of the summer term so it is highly likely.

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:57

If you do use CLs do not go by the pictures, and really look at reviews undecided

Takethedogalong replied on 16/01/2021 11:58

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:52 by Cornersteady

It's actually on my bucket listsmile

Seriously Mrs C is retiring at the end of the summer term so it is highly likely.

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:58

I can let you have some lovely ones with great cycling opportunities!

(on a different thread, sorry Ted)

replied on 16/01/2021 12:08

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:47 by Takethedogalong

That was the original concept Corners. Small, simple, but meeting certain criteria. This of course has altered down the decades, with water quality and EHU installation requiring safety checks. Rightly so.

Some of the changes are driven by modern outfits, more Motorhomes  nowadays, more outfit owners preferring sites with EHU, loos, showers, hardstandings, service pitches, wifi provision. Difficult to get a return on such investment with just five pitches.

Thankfully, there is still a good mix of basic, innovative off grid sites, all grass, grass/ hardstanding, all hardstanding, some with a loo, some with facility block, some with a small shop, etc.....

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:08

The user and all related content has been Deleted User

CholseyGrange replied on 16/01/2021 12:09

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:09

David, good points.  Depending on how old the existing EHU bollards are, the cost of adding meters can now be minimal.  More modern bollards use the DIN rail system and meters are fairly easily and cheaply added to these.

As you are not allowed to resell electricity under OFGEM regulations, owners can only charge the cost price per unit, so they are not making any margin or mark-up.

Whilst some vans might use only £2 or £3 per day, others use over £8 per day, so it seems fairer to charge based on usage.  However this will depend on whether an owner a) can fit meters and b) has the time to check them and calculate the usage.

As a result, some owners have taken the decision to uplift winter pitch pricing by an amount to cover their increased costs. Others (like us) have installed meters.

Dawn F replied on 16/01/2021 12:17

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:17

I don't understand apart from Scotland why anyone would want to stop to empty & refill their water

Surely if you are touring you empty before you leave site one then fill up when you arrive at site two

touring should and can often include one night stops to enable you to cover a larger area in your tour, I think many sites are going to end up over pricing and although the COVID situation seems to be making the staycation more popular hopefully it will eventually return to some normality and lots of the customers will revert to European travel.  Sites that have raised prices during the pandemic to cash in on the demand may find themselves without customers

I find it strange that most people want the system to suit their style of travel why not be more flexible and understand we are not all the same and some people want to do things different to what you deem as the right way

If COVID teaches us anything it should be to be more understanding and tolerant to our neighbours

Cornersteady replied on 16/01/2021 12:17

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:09 by CholseyGrange

David, good points.  Depending on how old the existing EHU bollards are, the cost of adding meters can now be minimal.  More modern bollards use the DIN rail system and meters are fairly easily and cheaply added to these.

As you are not allowed to resell electricity under OFGEM regulations, owners can only charge the cost price per unit, so they are not making any margin or mark-up.

Whilst some vans might use only £2 or £3 per day, others use over £8 per day, so it seems fairer to charge based on usage.  However this will depend on whether an owner a) can fit meters and b) has the time to check them and calculate the usage.

As a result, some owners have taken the decision to uplift winter pitch pricing by an amount to cover their increased costs. Others (like us) have installed meters.

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:17

Interesting and a serious question - you say minimal but what is the total cost of installing a meter? What is the cost of the unit itself and the cost of an electrician to do the work? Are there any ongoing costs, like yearly safety inspections and to ensure their reading are correct? 

Dawn F replied on 16/01/2021 12:19

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:19

Forgot to say, brilliant CL web page I have already started making a list of sites I would love to visit when we are allowed back in the outside world

Take care everyone and stay safe

peedee replied on 16/01/2021 12:22

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:22

b) has the time to check them and calculate the usage.

That is why I suggested it might be better to have a standard. This would allow a common smart card to be used on what is after all a Club  network. With such a system no owner would need to read meters.

peedee

This topic has been locked, no new replies can be added.

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook