CL Site Owners' Website

CholseyGrange replied on 14/01/2021 15:48

Posted on 14/01/2021 15:48

If you are a keen supporter of the CL network you might like to know that there's a dedicated support group for CL owners where they share best practice, information and encourage other landowners to set up new CLs. 

The group liaises with the Club on a regular basis, but like the CLs themeselves, it is entirely independent. The group receives no financial support or direction from the Club.The group was formed in 2014 and now has over 600 members.  Find out more on our website

How you can help: If you are visiting a CL and think they could benefit from advice or support from fellow CL owners, please point them in the direction of the group.  Likewise, if you know someone with a great spot for a new CL, the Owners Group website is a complementary source of information to the Clubs own guide for setting up a CL.

The group is entirely run by volunteers (all CL owners), is free to join and welcomes feedback from CAMC members, especially those with knowledge of the CL network!

JVB66 replied on 16/01/2021 11:01

Posted on 16/01/2021 10:58 by Tinwheeler

Then you have the issue of obtaining refunds for unused credit.

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:01

I think it is via a central payment system ,a bit like some other loaded cards

Takethedogalong replied on 16/01/2021 11:04

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:04

You also only have one owner (Canal and River Trust) providing and installing the meters, so they are all standard. CLs are independent businesses.

peedee replied on 16/01/2021 11:12

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:12

Even with independant businesses there can still be a standard issued by the Club that the owners could chose to follow or not.

peedee

Freddy55 replied on 16/01/2021 11:19

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:19

I’m all in favour of paying for the leccy one uses. I do though think that some folks might struggle with the concept of paying more for their pitch during the winter months, if a tiered system was introduced.

Tinwheeler replied on 16/01/2021 11:30

Posted on 16/01/2021 10:50 by cyberyacht

Ted wrote: "but more established CLs find that a one-nighter can often 'block' a longer booking and will only consider having them to stay either to fill-in a gap or as a last-minute booking if it suits them."

Do 'one-nighters' book ahead anyway? I would have thought a phone call either on the day or possibly the night before which would easily fill the odd gap. A bit of welcome extra cash provided it, at least, covered the "dump & fill" cost.

Any 'wild camping' I do is the odd night en-route to somewhere that I would be stopping at for a few days, so generally the "dump and fill" is on a site that I am staying at for a while.

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:30

CY, one nighters aren't a problem because, despite what Ted wrote as you've quoted, he then says CL owners "very much appreciate your business". So, we're welcomeđź‘Ť.

Takethedogalong replied on 16/01/2021 11:31

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:31

Ted, one interesting comment I have picked up on, is from one of your featured CLs. The owner said that after decades of providing a CL, the visiting inspector decided it needed a second CDP point. (🤔 For 5 outfits?) This bears out some of the anecdotal conversations we have had with CL owning friends, who find themselves puzzling over almost being made to instal something that the site has functioned perfectly well without for a very long time, as a term of getting the license renewed. Installing something for safety reasons is one thing, but if it’s an enhancement, that’s something different. We were told, anecdotally, that such a suggestions had forced one CL to close, as the owner simply couldn’t afford it. 
It might not be something to discuss on here, but it bears out the conversations we have had with one or two CL owners. Are some CLs being pushed down a path they can’t/don’t  want to follow, and is this a reason some are giving up? It’s worrying.

Cornersteady replied on 16/01/2021 11:36

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:36

CL owning friends, who find themselves puzzling over almost being made to instal something that the site has functioned perfectly well without for a very long time, as a term of getting the license renewed. Installing something for safety reasons is one thing, but if it’s an enhancement, that’s something different

I thought the idea and indeed the appeal of CLs were that they could be as simple or not as people wanted?  One could turn up almost on a whim and pitch however, pay whenever... and it was as cheap as you wanted it to be. 

Added to the 'fact' that they are not club sites nor run like club sites?

Now we have some wanting more control or the club issuing some sort of standard that could or could not be followed - in which case what is the point? 

Installing meters which would cost money which would lead to the CL owner having to get that money back somehow? And then the CL owner having more to track and some way of getting payment?

I've never used a CL but I appreciate the appeal and how well loved they are. There is something for everyone I would think? Why make them change to suit you? One can simply choose the CL that is 'right' for them?

brue replied on 16/01/2021 11:46

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:46

Agree with your comments Corners. Some CLs are part of other businesses but many are hobby type places and long may that continue. The "big boys" have money to make whilst others just enjoy their simple set up and we can enjoy them too.

Takethedogalong replied on 16/01/2021 11:47

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:47

That was the original concept Corners. Small, simple, but meeting certain criteria. This of course has altered down the decades, with water quality and EHU installation requiring safety checks. Rightly so.

Some of the changes are driven by modern outfits, more Motorhomes  nowadays, more outfit owners preferring sites with EHU, loos, showers, hardstandings, service pitches, wifi provision. Difficult to get a return on such investment with just five pitches.

Thankfully, there is still a good mix of basic, innovative off grid sites, all grass, grass/ hardstanding, all hardstanding, some with a loo, some with facility block, some with a small shop, etc.....

brue replied on 16/01/2021 11:48

Posted on 16/01/2021 11:48

By the way Corners (and anyone reading this) why not try a CL, you might be pleasantly surprised. smile

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