CL Site Owners' Website

CholseyGrange replied on 14/01/2021 15:48

Posted on 14/01/2021 15:48

If you are a keen supporter of the CL network you might like to know that there's a dedicated support group for CL owners where they share best practice, information and encourage other landowners to set up new CLs. 

The group liaises with the Club on a regular basis, but like the CLs themeselves, it is entirely independent. The group receives no financial support or direction from the Club.The group was formed in 2014 and now has over 600 members.  Find out more on our website

How you can help: If you are visiting a CL and think they could benefit from advice or support from fellow CL owners, please point them in the direction of the group.  Likewise, if you know someone with a great spot for a new CL, the Owners Group website is a complementary source of information to the Clubs own guide for setting up a CL.

The group is entirely run by volunteers (all CL owners), is free to join and welcomes feedback from CAMC members, especially those with knowledge of the CL network!

brue replied on 16/01/2021 14:11

Posted on 16/01/2021 13:05 by Takethedogalong

Sorry pd, like you, if metering is available, then it might be a fairer system for the likes of us, with a small outfit, minimal electric usage and off pitch for most of day. But going down the “standard” meter is losing the CL owner independent ethos. 

I never consider Club Sites and CLs in the same way. And long may it stay that way.

Posted on 16/01/2021 14:11

At present we're all subsidising the heavy EHU users, it's a no win situation all round on any site with EHU, a pity but that's the reality. So it's up to CL owners to make sure their costs are covered.

Takethedogalong replied on 16/01/2021 14:43

Posted on 16/01/2021 14:43

I agree. We know it’s driving up Club Site prices, because the Club instigated additional price rises on Sites two years running, having under estimated their costs last year and year before. So I suspect same is happening on CLs. 

Dawn F replied on 16/01/2021 15:09

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:58 by

I don't understand apart from Scotland why anyone would want to stop to empty & refill their water

Surely if you are touring you empty before you leave site one then fill up when you arrive at site two

Some don't use sites except when they need services. 

Posted on 16/01/2021 15:09

Sorry I thought wild camping was only allowed in certain areas of Scotland.  Surely if you are using a site because you need services then you are a customer who is paying for the night

So in reality is that not touring?

CholseyGrange replied on 16/01/2021 16:11

Posted on 16/01/2021 12:17 by Cornersteady

Interesting and a serious question - you say minimal but what is the total cost of installing a meter? What is the cost of the unit itself and the cost of an electrician to do the work? Are there any ongoing costs, like yearly safety inspections and to ensure their reading are correct? 

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:11

DIN rail digital meters can be had for around £20 each.  They are simple enough for an electrician to install pretty quickly.  I'd think they could do 5 in under an hour.  If this was combined with their electrical test inspection visit (mandatory for all CLs) then there would be no additional call-out charge.  My estimate therefore would be supply & fit @ around £150-£180.  

Cornersteady replied on 16/01/2021 16:16

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:11 by CholseyGrange

DIN rail digital meters can be had for around £20 each.  They are simple enough for an electrician to install pretty quickly.  I'd think they could do 5 in under an hour.  If this was combined with their electrical test inspection visit (mandatory for all CLs) then there would be no additional call-out charge.  My estimate therefore would be supply & fit @ around £150-£180.  

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:16

Ok thank yousmile

Certainly do-able on a CL. So I assume if installed the fees for the nightly stay would come down.

DavidKlyne replied on 16/01/2021 16:17

Posted on 16/01/2021 13:56 by peedee

But going down the “standard” meter is losing the CL owner independent ethos.

I did say "owners could chose to follow or not". A standard would make it easier for customers who would not have to mess about with a multidtude of different system. Even meters that accepted credit or debit cards would be good better than lots of different systems of payment.

peedee

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:17

That would be my concern about metering, having a multitude of systems and payment methods. It would make a lot of sense to have a common system, which system would obviously be made by the CL owners. Having some experience of use metering in Europe, mainly Germany, it can be inconvenient if you have to rely on the CL owner to take arrival and departure meter readings. An automated CC or Charged Card payment method would be an advantage to both CL owner and customer. Be interesting to know how Ted arranges his meter charging?

David

peedee replied on 16/01/2021 16:44

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:11 by CholseyGrange

DIN rail digital meters can be had for around £20 each.  They are simple enough for an electrician to install pretty quickly.  I'd think they could do 5 in under an hour.  If this was combined with their electrical test inspection visit (mandatory for all CLs) then there would be no additional call-out charge.  My estimate therefore would be supply & fit @ around £150-£180.  

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:44

It would not concern me if they initially didn't come down. Hopefully it would make a CL more viable and in the long term be of benefit to to both owner and customer.

peedee

peedee replied on 16/01/2021 16:53

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:11 by CholseyGrange

DIN rail digital meters can be had for around £20 each.  They are simple enough for an electrician to install pretty quickly.  I'd think they could do 5 in under an hour.  If this was combined with their electrical test inspection visit (mandatory for all CLs) then there would be no additional call-out charge.  My estimate therefore would be supply & fit @ around £150-£180.  

Posted on 16/01/2021 16:53

Thanks, very intersting, if you had to wire in a new post because metering was not possible using an older post,  I guess that would be considerably more expensive. A few years ago I think there was a quote given of about £1000 for five pitches ?

peedee

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