A CL In the making

harryb replied on 20/06/2021 21:04

Posted on 20/06/2021 21:04

I've just seen this on Facebook. Someone is making a cl from scratch and has listed the cost so far. It looks a major civil engineering job but makes interesting reading.

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Takethedogalong replied on 19/07/2021 22:03

Posted on 19/07/2021 22:03

Correct Nellie. A five pitch CL but with other accommodation. Nothing to do with exceeding 5 outfit ruling.

Fisherman replied on 20/07/2021 09:20

Posted on 20/07/2021 09:20

My views of the 5 rule are well known. ie not sustainable in the  expectations of modern users. Likewise not economically viable for making real alterations. its a 50/60 year rule that needs updating. My guess is that if you want to use this new site under Cl rules you probably have say 2 years until all the work is competed and the whole thing goes commercial. That is my view  and yes I have passed the age of touring but was a keen advocate of Cl's for over 40 years. I just dont want to see them all disappearing.

Navigateur replied on 20/07/2021 09:32

Posted on 20/07/2021 09:32

The attraction of CLs to me is the low numbers. In fact, I feel slightly agrieved when the place fills up to five.   Perhaps when I reach the age of living in the back of the vehicle that I drive around in I'll be looking for overnight stops at infinite capacity locations as well.

brue replied on 20/07/2021 09:52

Posted on 20/07/2021 09:52

I like CLs because they are limited to five vans. 

Some CLs like this one in the Highlands are limited by geography and weather and maybe local enterprise is encouraging this type of set up with ancillary accommodation etc. to keep it viable.

Takethedogalong replied on 20/07/2021 10:05

Posted on 20/07/2021 10:05

We simply love the basic, out in the sticks ones. They are usually a little bit of heaven, full of wildlife, mainly peaceful and quiet, and it’s a joy just to park up and enjoy the tranquility. These are getting rarer nowadays, but still to be found if you search hard enough. We are trying a new to us CL next week, no EHU, so we hope it will be nice and quiet, from our point of view, the less there the better. 

Navigateur replied on 20/07/2021 12:14

Posted on 20/07/2021 12:14

 A look at the satelite views shows this site to already have an extensive set up. Bed-and-Brekfast, little rental huts, horse facilities and perhaps even more not adjoining.  Looks like the CL is a new side line.

Fisherman replied on 20/07/2021 12:41

Posted on 20/07/2021 12:41

Takethedog-Just like you i was very much an advocate of basic. Starting off with A a self converted van, fishing and wild camping in remote areas. However things got a bit more sophisticated, the vans got better equipped and they required more facilities. ie EHU, hardstanding etc .Nowadays Vans and M/H are luxury vehicles. and very few can cope with a grass field and standpipe. To meet these requirements  sites need investment and not a few quid but substantial sums. If the Cl concept is to continue in the next 10 years and longer there has to be some amendment to the rules and yes size of field will be a major factor. Not all will want to expand but lets try and give an option. I very much hope that future generations will have a CL type experience like we did and can get away from the regimental, rule driven sites for their sanity. Perhaps the site mentioned here  is the way forward, large, multipurpose accommodation establishments.

cyberyacht replied on 21/07/2021 12:48

Posted on 21/07/2021 12:48

Fisherman wrote "Nowadays Vans and M/H are luxury vehicles. and very few can cope with a grass field and standpipe"

So long as the weather is benign and the surface well-drained, that is all that is required. For year-round clients hard standing would help but the need for individual fully serviced pitches and the like is overkill and five vans is never going to recoup that sort of outlay, particularly in a remote area which has an appeal to a minority.

Fisherman replied on 21/07/2021 12:57

Posted on 21/07/2021 12:57

There is a trend towards year round use of vans these days to justify the buying costs and more flexible working or early retirements, That leads to year round site opening and with our weather the need for the infrastructure. There are I recognise a limited number who seek "minimalism" but I suspect the  majority want more, with the added cost of setting up. As an interest can someone pinpoint this site by post code or similar. Interested in seeing it

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