8 outfits on CL site

All's well that ends well.  It's good to talk 👍.

What a delightful tale of humanity by the owner providing safe haven for otherwise stranded travellers due to circumstances outwith their control. 

TG - if you are happy with the situation then all is well. Don't complain.

I have come across situations  of a similar nature before and found that with 1 maybe 2 days the situation is resolved by natural movement of folk coming and going.

Indeed  some Cls have an overflow area where extra numbers may be accommodated and I have been pleased to be allocated such a pitch where it helps my overall travel plans.

Be grateful that Cls exist and are less regimented than club sites and more often than not you can set up any which way you want with plenty of elbow room. 

TG - whereas I would normally be like you - annoyed - at coming across this, I am coming round to the view that we probably have to accept it this year. There is a shortage of space and high demand for pitches and part of me is sympathising with the owners for making the most of the situation after having being closed - and therefore no income - for such a long time. 

We were recently on our favourite CS where the owner is normally a stickler for the rules - it's a site with over 2 acres and therefore loads of room.  One night, there were 8 units on site and since I know him very well, I asked him about it and he told me that the C&CC were being a bit more 'relaxed' about the situation, this year - especially in view of the fact that pop-up sites were being permitted for up to 56 days without having to apply for planning permission.

Whilst they are technically breaching the terms of their exemption from planning requirements, we are in unusual times and I think things will settle down again before too long - hopefully.

I have to say we met some lovely people whilst staying there and had a great time and because of the size of the site didn't feel in the slightest bit 'crowded in'.

You can now see why the local auth are not interested in monitoring numbers. Add in the other club can have 15 Outfits and the whole system is crazy.

The C&CC allow five vans and ten tents but not all CS sites have tents.

Local Authorities see them as Units, no difference between vans and tents. Also each Unit has a vehicle which is what the Highways Authority deal with.

Yes, but only five caravans or motorhomes are allowed on a CS, admittedly 10 ten tents could equal 10 vehicles but the system allows for backpackers and cyclists with tents too.

Nothing Local  authority likes more than "control". With Cl & Cs they have none. Once a planning application is submitted they can stipulate access conditions, landscaping etc. They also have the ability to make the site a separate rating unit hence more income. As most small applications are for 10/12 units and Cs is seen as 15 no contest. So much so that the applications dont go before full planning committees but granted under devolved powers to the planning  officer even in Nat Park.

On the last 2 CLs that we've been to there have been up to six outfits on each for some of the seven days that we were on each of them. This was of no concern to me as there was ample room on both. At the last CL the spacing between units was at least double that one finds on a main site.  My thoughts are that in view of not being able to go overseas, coupled with the reported vast increase in the number of caravans and motorhomes requiring pitches this year that there is an unofficial relaxation on maximum numbers. If there is adequate space on a CL I have no problem with this if the increase is limited to a maximum of 6 or 7 outfits - even longer term. 

Whether this has anything to do with possible forward planning by the CaMC  but has anyone else noticed that on the new logo CL site signs there is no maximum number of outfits shown, just that the CL is for members only. On the old logo signs it stated 5 units only.