5 van sites exemption etc

It is largely misinformation. You can find the facts on the Internet and I don't think the clubs need to get involved.

Sounds as if the comments from some on other forums are an off shoot of the antivaxers with fake news

Ps if a CL owner has the room and inclination to open an eire type stopover then that is between them and their LA

I think you need to stay of other forums!

Seriously, this is one of those subjects which could be endlessly  debated however, it is what it is and personally see no change coming soon.

As for adding an aire-thats a whole other subject besides which, if one was to approach anyone outside our 'bubble' they would not have clue what you were talking about.

No need to rely on other forums - there are official websites spelling out the various exemption certificates for tents, for caravans, for five van sites, and for rallies - and how to apply for them. Hundreds (literally) of clubs, organisations and social groups have obtained one or more of these exemptions. It's all on line as usual - with lists of all those groups printed out and the particular type of exemption they hold.  

All excemption certificates when issued are only valid for use of members of the organisation it is issued to and ir must be proved they are competant to hold one that must be held by a member of the organisation they can also be withdrawn by the local LA if there are complaints or non compliance 

And non compliance is why both major clubs who are holders of certificates ,need to be advised by members using CLs /CS as if it comes from the locals (NIMBY)about non compliance then more notice will be taken ,and could result in either clubs certificate being withdrawn?

Only half the CL/CS's that I visited last year asked for proof of membership. If this is prevalent across the network the fake facts may inadvertently be born out in that you don't have to be a member to book.

All excemption certificates when issued are only valid for use of members of the organisation it is issued to and ir must be proved they are competant to hold one that must be held by a member of the organisation they can also be withdrawn by the local LA if there are complaints or non compliance

I suggest you check your facts before posting JVB. Natural England in their guidance advise:

What are the membership requirements for different certificates?

Membership is a matter for the organisations themselves, but the use of different exemption certificates dictates who can take part.

•Paragraph 4 – both members and non-members of the organisation are permitted to use the site, provided they all remain under the supervision of the organisation occupying the site;

•Paragraph 5 – exempted organisations issue certificates stating that a site has been approved for the use of its members. However, non-members may also use the site, unless there is an agreement between the site owner and the organisation that restricts its use to members only;

•Paragraph 6 – only for members of the organisation holding the meeting. Membership must have been given in advance of attending meetings and must be for a longer period than that associated with attendance at only one event (usually for a full year). Both the individual and the organisation must enter into a membership agreement with the intention that it is to run its full course (although there may be genuine reasons why an individual does not remain a member for the full term). An arrangement to give prospective members a trial to see what an organisation is like by inviting them to attend a meeting or by granting “temporary” membership is not allowed.

Paragraph 5 is the one relevant to Certificated Locations and sites. The Motorcaravnners Club (MCC) allows non members to use it's CLs but they are for motorhomes only. The OP's post is largely fictitious but the MCC CLs could be referred to as "Aires" but they certainly cannot exist in addition to a CL. i.e exceed five pitches. The MCC is a supporter of CamPra

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Then natural england and what i have been reading on the Gov website need to get together 

What is the reference of your Gov source please JVB?

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Just incase you cannot find it JVB, here is what go.uk says

Click >here<

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