Towing a T/A with an EV - real world

Can you post a link and make it easy for us, Nutsy?

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oLeKRNsSn4

I watched on my TV, better than sitting in front of a PC.

Cheers. I’ll do the same later👍🏻

The conclusions were somewhat obvious. The range drop is about 50% (300miles to 150miles) when towing an 8foot wide T/A at 60mph in damp conditions, and that charging while towing requires unhitching. 

No mention that either going a bit slower can yield longer range, or that unhitching to charge is possible or that the impact is that same on an ICE car (just with a bigger starting range). 

1) I get 250+ miles out of 10 gals of petrol towing my van. My previous 14 gal diesel got much more. 

2) going slower will also increase that range 

3) I don’t unhitch to refuel.

4) refuelling takes about 5 mins

5) I don’t need to hunt for fuel pumps that are free, working or need a multitude of ‘apps’ for each brand of fuel for which I have pre registered in order to refuel. 
6) I don’t need to find a ‘fast’ petrol pump, they are all fast. 

CT

Unhitching to charge was discussed - as in having to leave the van in the lorry park requiring being attended to avoid theft whilst the 2 chargers are in the car park.

The impact is not the same with most ICE cars - in my case the range reduces by 30% not 50%, and I can fill up without unhitching - and only take 5 minutes doing it. And even after the 30% reduction, my range is is still 400 miles.

Damp conditions, cold weather, rain all affect the range but we are in the UK. I've seen many stories of having to wear winter coats whilst driving to avoid having the heater on, and what about heated seats, windscreen wipers, in car entertainment, sat on the M25 for 2 hours?

PP does refer to the weather affecting his range - and has done in other reviews of high end EV's (Audi E-tron for example) and he has a Ford Mustang on long term test which continually fails to reach anywhere near its advertised range. Have you noticed that Mayor Khan, whilst forcing "ordinary" drivers of ICE cars off the road , still drives around in a 5 car motorcade of V8 Range Rovers? As do most of HMG's ministers. Hypocrites.

I know you are a big fan of EV's, but they are simply not good enough for most caravanners and probably never will be - not in my lifetime anyway. Not least because of the cost of the things on leasing arrangements (see Sky news app today - around 30% more than a comparable ICE car to lease for 3 years) or indeed to outright purchase if you are so inclined.

As a city car they make sense for folks who have home chargers, no dispute (if you can afford one in the first place).

It was a pretty extreme outfit? However it did point out some of the future difficulties that those using EV's will face. Will caravanning survive? I missed out motorhomes simply because the choice of electric ones is currently so small, compared to normal cars, its difficult to imagine what things will look like in 2030. 

Perhaps Andrew Ditton, via his YouTube Channel, offers a more realistic view of the future using his EV6 with a relatively small caravan. Is that the way forward? He has also experienced some of the difficulties illustrated in the video posted. 

David

slightly off topic ..... but this shows another side of EVs & their batteries. Not quite as green as they would have us believe.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/workers-are-dying-in-the-ev-industrys-tainted-city

ED you are quite correct. EV users and HMG forcing them on us are conveniently ignoring the human and greenhouse gas costs of manufacturing these things.There are many published reports stating that an EV only becomes "net zero" (which in itself is a weasel phrase) at circa 70k miles. Oh, they use "green" electricity - no they don't, they use leccie from the grid where there is no distinction between the various power sources. Woodchip burning at Drax anyone? Subsidised by HMG to the tune of millions every year.

I know its going off the original topic, but the forums and youtube are littered with horror stories about charging points, inaccurate range, costs (no cheaper than ICE) etc. One guy on youtube running a Porsche Taycan (another high cost EV) reports an annual service cost of £700, requiring 2 new tyres at 19k (£800) due to the weight of the car, and constant recalls for glitches.

David

Is it really extreme? How many T/A's do you see on any site now? Yes it is obviously possible to downgrade to a smaller van - at what cost? Replace your perfectly good ICE car with an EV, replace your perfectly good van with a smaller one? No thanks. I'll give it all up and get on a plane

I said on one of Chocolate Tree's threads that the future of caravanning / motorhoming is in danger, as is the future of C&MC. I was poo poohed. The whole leisure industry is at risk due to this arbitrary, unthoughtout posturing of HMG. Virtue signalling for the Cop meetings and Davos -and we all know how green (not) those shindigs are.

Paul