Towing a T/A with an EV - real world

NutsyH replied on 28/02/2023 15:16

Posted on 28/02/2023 15:16

If, like me, you have an 1850KG twin axle, go to youtube, search for the channel of Petrol Ped, and watch his test of the biggest BMW EV (£100k ++) towing a Swift T/A  from Chichester to Beaulieu.  He does a comparison run without the van first.

I don't think the conclusion will surprise you.

Paul

 

 

ChocolateTrees replied on 01/03/2023 17:57

Posted on 01/03/2023 17:57

Oneputt, it depends on the question. I use google to search for lots of info. In this specific case for the Institute for Energy research my reaction to articles that lead with statements like "In Australia, only two percent of the country’s 3,300 metric tons of lithium-ion waste is recycled. Unwanted MP3 players and laptops often end up in landfills, where metals from the electrodes and ionic fluids from the electrolyte can leak into the environment." is to ask - who is making this statement? 

So - click around the site to see what else they are saying - like the article "The Climate Fund Act: Harmful to Workers and Consumers" which states that "In the immediate wake of the PPCFA, oil and gas shareholders would see a 42-percent drop in earnings."

And that leads me to believe the site is lobbying on behalf of the fossil industry - not promoting new green energy solutions. So I google the organisation to see who funds them. And that information tells me who is paying for the material (Exxon is a large contributor in this case). 

I listen to a lot of material from Fully Charged. They bring in a lot of industry experts from a whole range of areas, but their fields are generally either academic with engineering application, or entrepreneurial, breaking new ground. And then I look to see who they are sponsored by too.

 

brue replied on 02/03/2023 17:13

Posted on 02/03/2023 17:13

I noticed the winning EV towcar in the club's "tow car" of the year. Although not normally interested much in these things myself it was one OH had picked out as a good possible. I thought the OP's youtube demo was expecting a bit too much from the outfit chosen. I suppose you can produce failures and down beat examples of just about everything but for anyone who wants to stay positive about advanced engineering and all those involved with research into lessening the worst excesses of the ICE age there is hope on the horizon.

Apologies Oneputt, I know this goes against your comments and link but balance is always needed when considering why new technology overtakes the old. smile

PS I won't be commenting further.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 02/03/2023 18:39

Posted on 02/03/2023 18:39

Everyone is entitled to an opinion & a choice re EV or not. I for one love the idea of a world of EV’s yet I have no intention of investing in one until I need to or want to. I’m not there yet for sure but it don’t stop me from reading everything I can find re EV🤷🏻‍♂️

ChocolateTrees replied on 02/03/2023 19:02

Posted on 02/03/2023 17:04 by Oneputt

Posted on 02/03/2023 19:02

Thanks Oneputt. In my mind, both articles seem much more balanced, and are from non-fossil funded sources as far as I can tell. They highlight the same issue as the article referenced near the start of this thread, that of rapid expansion without an appropriate framework of legislation or protection for workers and individuals. 

EVs (and the associated battery manufatcure and resource consumption)  are not the only answer to fossil fuel consumption, but they are a part of the answer. The impact of oil extraction and usage is still the unmentioned elephant in the room...

I certainly don't have all the answers, but IMHO continuing to burn stuff is not an option any more. 

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flatcoat replied on 02/03/2023 22:36

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It's a sad thing not to envy the youth but I have had the the opportunity to enjoy  a lifestyle  that will be denied to them.

Not just ICE powered vehicles but a whole raft of benefits that wont be  coming this way again.

 A  very early retirement and  ICE vehicle's  have  have given my wife and I a 25 year retirement  where  we have had the privelidge to roam Europe at will doing those 3000 mile jaunts. It wont impact us personally I have a new diesel  in the garage  that will see us out and another generation will  "spin out" the remaining  SH  vehicles  for a while.  However the saddest part of all is that this self inflicted destruction  is all based on an  "Emperors new clothes" version of reality and will achieve nothing.

Posted on 02/03/2023 22:36

Yes, the very fact that unelected legislators are pushing for EV’s as the sole form of motive power guarantees it will end in tears. However the fight back against Nut zero writing is on the wall with the Merseyside village which have refused to accept enforced installation of ASHP and Hydrogen CH systems. And, Germany and other countries are pushing to allow synthetic fuelled ICE to continue after 2035…… there will be voter revolt. Don’t even start me on scientific ‘consensus’…… since when is consensus fact? 

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