Practical towing experience using an EV.

Nickplymouth replied on 27/06/2021 11:18

Posted on 27/06/2021 11:18

Hi all,

I wondered if anybody has used an electric car for towing and has practical experience they can share?

I've used a hybrid recently and it's fine as of course I can top up with fuel nice and easily.

My main concern is charging on a longer trip. From what I can tell to charge at services, I am likely to need to park the caravan in the 'lorry' area then move the car to a charge point then back again after. I don't think this is possible at all service areas so might require the caravan to be taken to the normal car area, but still unhitched to allow charging.

I can cope with a little extra inconvenience, as I don't expect it to be an issue very often.

Thanks.

Nick.

EmilysDad replied on 06/08/2021 14:33

Posted on 06/08/2021 14:33

Where will all the electric come from to keep up with demand from all these chargers? And if we do provide enough windmills & solar panels how are we going to supply it to our houses etc using the existing infrastructure..... we're gonna need a bigger cable! (or 3) When there are only a handful of high output chargers on your estate the existing system will manage  but when we all want at least 1  (in reality Dad will want 1 as will Mum and so will the kids when they all want a charged car for work/college the next day) .... the system will fail. The theory sounds great but I suspect that in practice it won't be as rosy as they try to make it sound. 

JVB66 replied on 06/08/2021 15:29

Posted on 06/08/2021 14:33 by EmilysDad

Where will all the electric come from to keep up with demand from all these chargers? And if we do provide enough windmills & solar panels how are we going to supply it to our houses etc using the existing infrastructure..... we're gonna need a bigger cable! (or 3) When there are only a handful of high output chargers on your estate the existing system will manage  but when we all want at least 1  (in reality Dad will want 1 as will Mum and so will the kids when they all want a charged car for work/college the next day) .... the system will fail. The theory sounds great but I suspect that in practice it won't be as rosy as they try to make it sound. 

Posted on 06/08/2021 15:29

I agree with you as I may have posted before, Another dog walker at home is a retired CEGB engineer, and he says most of the infrastructure  in the UK is extremely old and will never cope with what is going to be expected of it.

, One of the "bright ideas"? is to use lamp post supplies and to fit charging points to the posts ,and as he says in our area a lot of the cables will need replacing as they coming up between 50 &100yrs old and are not expected to power the lights (even with the LED heads now fitted) and then also to charge EVs over night, 

When at FM site some weeks ago the supply to the site and the park went down, and the men that had to splice in a piece of cable to repair the fault , said that it is getting more common, to have to keep patching cables because of the add power hungry equipment that is being used

 

 

JohnM20 replied on 06/08/2021 15:41

Posted on 06/08/2021 15:41

Whilst I agree that the number of public charging points is probably increasing I doubt whether it is at the same rate as the increase in vehicles needing to use them. Will those needing to charge up on a journey be happy to wait in a queue for 30 or 60 minutes or more. The answer is probably yes, for the first time, more frustration the second time and dummy out of the pram the third time, thinking, if not saying outright, "I could have been at my destination by now 'in the old days'".

Reading and listening to comments from some people with EVs I can't help thinking there is an element of "Emperors new clothes". Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the idea of EVs, providing the price is acceptable and that the charging infrastructure is all in place. I can't see it being so in my lifetime.

The repair speed, if an EV sustains an electrical fault, must be more acceptable. For example, my nephew has been told he won't see his £70,000 Jaguar E Pace for about six weeks whilst they sort out his charging problem. At present it appears that there is a great shortage of trained technicians who have to go from dealer to dealer assessing problems then ordering parts and returning at a later date to carry out the work. Nephew isn't a happy bunny !

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 06/08/2021 17:02

Posted on 06/08/2021 14:33 by EmilysDad

Where will all the electric come from to keep up with demand from all these chargers? And if we do provide enough windmills & solar panels how are we going to supply it to our houses etc using the existing infrastructure..... we're gonna need a bigger cable! (or 3) When there are only a handful of high output chargers on your estate the existing system will manage  but when we all want at least 1  (in reality Dad will want 1 as will Mum and so will the kids when they all want a charged car for work/college the next day) .... the system will fail. The theory sounds great but I suspect that in practice it won't be as rosy as they try to make it sound. 

Posted on 06/08/2021 17:02

ED, it’d be best to ask that in 10 years or so as no one can do anything other than guess at this stage, not even Govt ministers because the capacity & the ways it will be delivered is still being planned & built👍🏻

EmilysDad replied on 06/08/2021 19:11

Posted on 06/08/2021 17:02 by Rocky 2 buckets

ED, it’d be best to ask that in 10 years or so as no one can do anything other than guess at this stage, not even Govt ministers because the capacity & the ways it will be delivered is still being planned & built👍🏻

Posted on 06/08/2021 19:11

 but in less than 10 years the powers that be want to stop the sale of ICE only cars .... will those of us with a large twin axle just go & buy a diesel Transit/Sprinter?

I'm not opposed to leccy cars, but can't see that they are the answer to all our transport problems ..... I don't have an answer to saving the planet either.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 06/08/2021 21:05

Posted on 06/08/2021 19:11 by EmilysDad

 but in less than 10 years the powers that be want to stop the sale of ICE only cars .... will those of us with a large twin axle just go & buy a diesel Transit/Sprinter?

I'm not opposed to leccy cars, but can't see that they are the answer to all our transport problems ..... I don't have an answer to saving the planet either.

Posted on 06/08/2021 21:05

There is nothing in law to stop you buying whatever you want prior to the sales being banned👍🏻. It ain’t up to you or me to make it work ED we will do what we want to until we can’t. 

eribaMotters replied on 06/08/2021 22:45

Posted on 06/08/2021 22:45

What an interesting situation we find ourselves in. Governments are pushing the car industry for electric vehicles and they are starting to produce vehicles that could in theory meet the majority of our needs. The Hyundai Ionix 5 will tow up to 1,600kg, and looks rather nice, so fine for must of us, but what about the infrastructure to support it. It is not there and as we can see from above shows no signs of getting there. Prices are even starting to come down but who will make the jump to buy such a vehicle?

 

Colin

EmilysDad replied on 06/08/2021 23:19

Posted on 06/08/2021 21:05 by Rocky 2 buckets

There is nothing in law to stop you buying whatever you want prior to the sales being banned👍🏻. It ain’t up to you or me to make it work ED we will do what we want to until we can’t. 

Posted on 06/08/2021 23:19

... There is nothing in law to stop you buying whatever you want prior to the sales being banned

but kind of defeats the object of banning ICE cars 🤷‍♂️

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 07/08/2021 08:30

Posted on 06/08/2021 23:19 by EmilysDad

... There is nothing in law to stop you buying whatever you want prior to the sales being banned

but kind of defeats the object of banning ICE cars 🤷‍♂️

Posted on 07/08/2021 08:30

Again-I don't make the rules, telling me the rule makers are messed up without joined up thinking is something I’ve known most of my life🤷🏻‍♂️. In short-you are preaching to the converted.

NutsyH replied on 08/08/2021 12:32

Posted on 08/08/2021 12:32

It i snow a legal requirement that all new home chargers have digital systems to monitor the amount of electric being used. No doubt so that the electric can be taxed.

 

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