Practical towing experience using an EV.

Nickplymouth replied on 27/06/2021 11:18

Posted on 27/06/2021 11:18

Hi all,

I wondered if anybody has used an electric car for towing and has practical experience they can share?

I've used a hybrid recently and it's fine as of course I can top up with fuel nice and easily.

My main concern is charging on a longer trip. From what I can tell to charge at services, I am likely to need to park the caravan in the 'lorry' area then move the car to a charge point then back again after. I don't think this is possible at all service areas so might require the caravan to be taken to the normal car area, but still unhitched to allow charging.

I can cope with a little extra inconvenience, as I don't expect it to be an issue very often.

Thanks.

Nick.

ChocolateTrees replied on 11/08/2021 19:15

Posted on 11/08/2021 18:59 by JVB66

Not the way it seems us needed when doing the same with an EV and far quicker,   but then you would  try to have your halfpenny worth as usualcool

Posted on 11/08/2021 19:15

That’s what I said. Planning with an EV is different to planning with an ICE, but it’s all planning. Is EV planning slower? Maybe the first few times, but you soon get the hang. And as I say, for day to day (non holiday) it’s super trivial. Drive somewhere. Drive home plug-in. Repeat. Always be ready to go the next day…

JVB66 replied on 11/08/2021 20:11

Posted on 11/08/2021 19:15 by ChocolateTrees

That’s what I said. Planning with an EV is different to planning with an ICE, but it’s all planning. Is EV planning slower? Maybe the first few times, but you soon get the hang. And as I say, for day to day (non holiday) it’s super trivial. Drive somewhere. Drive home plug-in. Repeat. Always be ready to go the next day…

Posted on 11/08/2021 20:11

And as I said IF you have a property that is close enough to allow daily? Plug ins to be ready fir next day, our ICE would be ready when I parked up even if not outside our house and even if right outside which to charge as you   a lead Of about  25mtrs across a grass verge then a  public footpath and another grass verge and plug in overnight.?

ChocolateTrees replied on 11/08/2021 20:45

Posted on 11/08/2021 19:02 by

You are not doing much to sell me on the idea too. My typical  towing day will be 200 -250 miles towing 1500kg. I aim to start with a full tank but due to my dislike of seeing the needle anywhere near a quarter often refuel during the day. A EV would require me to be certain that at my  night halt it would be charged ready for the following  day and I dont know  how long it will be before that infrastructure is in place throughout europe. 

Posted on 11/08/2021 20:45

200 to 250 miles a day with 1500kg would be straight forward. Have a look at PlugShare or ABRP (a better route planner) to see the charging locations across Europe. 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/08/2021 21:02

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ChocolateTrees replied on 11/08/2021 22:51

Posted on 11/08/2021 20:11 by JVB66

And as I said IF you have a property that is close enough to allow daily? Plug ins to be ready fir next day, our ICE would be ready when I parked up even if not outside our house and even if right outside which to charge as you   a lead Of about  25mtrs across a grass verge then a  public footpath and another grass verge and plug in overnight.?

Posted on 11/08/2021 22:51

EV won’t be for everyone yet. The inability to home charge is a barrier for adoption for some folks, again dependent on circumstances. I have colleagues who can’t home charge but drive EVs without issue. I have a neighbour who has had his EV since 2017, was given a home charger with it but never bothered to install and never charges at home. The charger is still in a box in his garage. For him it was a mindset. He wanted an EV, found a way to make it happen and it did. 
If you have a house that is near a road, but does not have off road parking, it is legal to trail a cable over a footpath to charge, unless your local authority has a specific bylaw preventing it. If part of the distance from the house to the road is your private land, you can install the charger close to the road. It doesn’t have to be on your house, and you don’t have to have private or off-road parking. If neither of those is possible, you can apply to your local authority to install a charger in your road. There are specific government grants for the purpose. Or of course you can do nothing and just carry on with what you have. 
Just to be clear - I am not trying to persuade anyone to get an EV if they don’t want one. My aim is to help debunk the myths and untruths around EVs, myths like - you can’t tow, or  the range is terrible, or it will take forever to get anywhere, or its impossible to charge in public, or EVs are inconvenient. Almost everything is based on personal circumstances. 

JVB66 replied on 12/08/2021 09:05

Posted on 11/08/2021 22:51 by ChocolateTrees

EV won’t be for everyone yet. The inability to home charge is a barrier for adoption for some folks, again dependent on circumstances. I have colleagues who can’t home charge but drive EVs without issue. I have a neighbour who has had his EV since 2017, was given a home charger with it but never bothered to install and never charges at home. The charger is still in a box in his garage. For him it was a mindset. He wanted an EV, found a way to make it happen and it did. 
If you have a house that is near a road, but does not have off road parking, it is legal to trail a cable over a footpath to charge, unless your local authority has a specific bylaw preventing it. If part of the distance from the house to the road is your private land, you can install the charger close to the road. It doesn’t have to be on your house, and you don’t have to have private or off-road parking. If neither of those is possible, you can apply to your local authority to install a charger in your road. There are specific government grants for the purpose. Or of course you can do nothing and just carry on with what you have. 
Just to be clear - I am not trying to persuade anyone to get an EV if they don’t want one. My aim is to help debunk the myths and untruths around EVs, myths like - you can’t tow, or  the range is terrible, or it will take forever to get anywhere, or its impossible to charge in public, or EVs are inconvenient. Almost everything is based on personal circumstances. 

Posted on 12/08/2021 09:05

I agree with most of your post ?the mention of some cannot charge at home should read many who cannot we have been told not to run cables

I take it the person who as those who work in companies that have charging points uses that to save money on his electric usage?

It will cost many millions in our area alone to upgrade and modify the infrastructure for eV charging  it has been assessed already by  I think our local civic society

Ps just this morning I have read that the 2025 cut off for gas boilers has been put back to 2040 surprised

 

 

 

ChocolateTrees replied on 12/08/2021 15:18

Posted on 12/08/2021 09:05 by JVB66

I agree with most of your post ?the mention of some cannot charge at home should read many who cannot we have been told not to run cables

I take it the person who as those who work in companies that have charging points uses that to save money on his electric usage?

It will cost many millions in our area alone to upgrade and modify the infrastructure for eV charging  it has been assessed already by  I think our local civic society

Ps just this morning I have read that the 2025 cut off for gas boilers has been put back to 2040 surprised

 

 

 

Posted on 12/08/2021 15:18

The running of cables (or prohibition of) is very annoying, and needs challenging with each area. Many councils don't have an issue as long as a cable cover is used or a channel for the cable provided. Its such a simple solution for a number of folks and would massivly help.

My neighbour drives a Tesla and charges at work and on the supercharger network. He has about a 45 mile round trip commute. 

My colleagues public charge or charge at work, though our office is only partially open, so not many actually charging there. 

brue replied on 12/08/2021 15:57

Posted on 12/08/2021 09:05 by JVB66

I agree with most of your post ?the mention of some cannot charge at home should read many who cannot we have been told not to run cables

I take it the person who as those who work in companies that have charging points uses that to save money on his electric usage?

It will cost many millions in our area alone to upgrade and modify the infrastructure for eV charging  it has been assessed already by  I think our local civic society

Ps just this morning I have read that the 2025 cut off for gas boilers has been put back to 2040 surprised

 

 

 

Posted on 12/08/2021 15:57

By the time EVs or their counterparts become commonplace the charging at home problem probably won't exist. You manage at home without a petrol or diesel pump don't you? EV batteries are running for longer, regeneration is improving. There are various ideas coming along now that will solve home charging problems.

When ICE cars were first developed there was a similar challenge, no fuel available, not many surfaced roads either! 

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