Engine re-mapping

replied on 09/03/2018 11:36

Posted on 09/03/2018 11:36

How would an insurance company know you have had it remapped or do the insurance companies do a test on every car that's involved in every accident.

Probably not.

lornalou1 replied on 09/03/2018 11:43

Posted on 08/03/2018 20:11 by ChemicalJasper

That's kinda what I said, but written in a way to make you want to spend lots of money!

Manufacturers give you a 'tune' to optimise fuel efficiency for all general conditions, but by squirting more fuel in, you can obviously get more power, but at the expense of efficiency!

They don't 'optimise software'!....they update a table, that's all, that's what a map is and many just upload a set table...10 second £250...not bad work if you can get it!

(not all, you can get a bespoke map if they put it on a rolling road and live edit, but all the ones that do it at your house etc. just upload a new table).

But still, more power and torque yes, but at the expense of efficiency, emissions and probably longevity!

(also Octane has nothing to do with diesel cars...brilliant! yelllaughing

 

Posted on 09/03/2018 11:43

yes, mine was put on a rolling road and took 2hours as I watch while they did it. its not just a case of shoving more fuel in its mainly the air intake more than fuel. why do you see air rams on top of drag racers so air is forced into the engine. we could all sit round a table and argue with the experts and still not come to an agreement on remaps.

Tinwheeler replied on 09/03/2018 11:47

Posted on 09/03/2018 11:32 by lornalou1

OK. my car is out of warranty so doesn't matter with dealers as I would have to pay for any repairs whatever they may be.

How would an insurance company know you have had it remapped or do the insurance companies do a test on every car that's involved in every accident. Even a dealer wouldn't know its been done unless they put it on there machine and run a test. a plug in diagnostic reader wouldn't show up a remap as they are used to find/remove fault codes.

I wanted my vehicle remapped so I had it done and paid for it. if it damages my motor I have only myself to blame. there are many cynics out there that will question everything people do. everybody has a choice in life and should be left to there own devises and not be criticised for there choice. the OP asked a question and I answered it and its up to him if he takes/does what I have done.

I paid the money and I take the chance.

Posted on 09/03/2018 11:47

Why so angry, LL? I was asking sensible questions. OK, you accept that any mechanical faults caused by the remapping are your own to sort out as warranty is not involved and, similarly, any MOT problems will be down to you.

I was interested to hear of any warranty/MOT issues - that is all and I wasn't criticising or pointing the finger at you. You have no problems to report which is good.

However, the insurance aspect is a different matter. I was interested to hear the companies' responses and Via has given us an indication. You, however, seem not to have told your insurer which is an extremely reckless thing to do. Believe me, if an insurance company was looking for a get out clause to avoid paying, they would discover the remapping with no trouble at all. For potentially driving without valid insurance, I would criticise anyone and that appears to include you.

Oneputt replied on 09/03/2018 14:10

Posted on 09/03/2018 14:10

Just like adding a tow hook I told my insurer, no problem they said and I had to pay a little more on the premium, it wasn’t a lot. No problem at MOT, vehicle is out of warranty.

Tinwheeler replied on 09/03/2018 14:18

Posted on 09/03/2018 14:10 by Oneputt

Just like adding a tow hook I told my insurer, no problem they said and I had to pay a little more on the premium, it wasn’t a lot. No problem at MOT, vehicle is out of warranty.

Posted on 09/03/2018 14:18

Thanks for that, One.

It’s good to know there were no MOT problems and it’s only to be expected that the insurance premium would go up. As long as it wasn’t a big hike in price, that’s not bad.

I've told insurers about fitting a towbar and having windows tinted in the past and it’s not been problematical.

 

EmilysDad replied on 09/03/2018 18:26

Posted on 09/03/2018 18:26

When I insure a 'new to me' car (I can't afford new what I like driving) & I get asked if the car has been modified from standard, I just say 'not as far as I know' ..... and how would I know if it'd been chipped?

Oneputt replied on 09/03/2018 18:28

Posted on 09/03/2018 10:41 by viatorem

 

Just out of interest I checked Direct Line about cover for remaps

"No, we will not provide cover for cars that have have been modified or altered in anyway (including wheels, suspension, bodywork and engine). The only exception to this is if your car has been fitted with a towbar“.

and LV

"Yes, with LV= car insurance we can insure some cars that have had changes or modifications to their standard specifications. The easiest way to find out if we can cover your vehicle is to get a quote.

Let us know what changes have been made to your car by answering 'Yes' to this question: "Has your car been changed in any way from the manufacturer's standard specification?". You'll be given a list of changes to choose from, including things like engine remapping, body work changes and additional security features"

COOP

No

 

So some companies do cover with an implied hike in premium and some don't  ..... remappers beware.

Posted on 09/03/2018 18:28

I’m with LV and they charged me (I think) £10.00 for the year or under 0.03p/day.

My car was motd in August and passed with no problem.  Of course I’m not talking theoretical here I’m talking from experience.

I probably wouldn’t fit one on a car still under warranty 

G Cherokee replied on 09/03/2018 19:27

Posted on 09/03/2018 19:27

For what its worth, most maps that are added to your vehicle are switchable, and / or removeable.

So if you were that way inclined, no one would know it has been or is remapped.

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