Another long tow with an EV

ChocolateTrees replied on 23/07/2022 21:19

Posted on 23/07/2022 21:19

Great journey yesterday from South Northamptonshire to the Lake District, towing our 1550kg Unicorn Vigo, with our Polestar 2 LRDM. It’s our 7th or 8th holiday towing with the Polestar so are getting the hang of it.
Two stops, the first after 110 miles in Crew at an Instavolt. Insta was on a go slow at only 80kW max (49 mins)
Second stop 85 miles later at the South lakes Porsche experience center. Great 350kW charger peaked at 136kW for me (battery at 26%). Stopped for just 25mins. Then on to Borrowdale. The whole journey used 146kWh over 260 miles giving a potential range of 132 miles on a single charge. The first leg was even better (much flatter) with a potential range or 140miles towing.
In all just 75 mins of charging on a 7:25 min journey, but we had some long delays on the M6 (around 50 mins). Car was superb…
Total electricity cost, about £61, with about 40 solo miles left over at the end.

We did the same journey last October. I have learned 4 key things since then.
1) ultra-rapid chargers make a huge difference. I would love an EV6 as a tow car for that reason (though I am not sure I would give up the Polestar just for that).
2) there are a LOT more ultra-rapid chargers than just 8 months ago.
3) Gridserve MSA that replaced the Electric Highway chargers are NOT ultra-rapid, even though they are advertised as 120kW.
4) Plan to use as much of your charge as possible each time to maximise charge rate and minimise charge time. As the number of Ultra-rapid chargers grows, this gets easier.

The infrastructure is definitely not as bad either the press make out or people think it is, but it still has a long way to go!

Tinwheeler replied on 03/10/2022 18:05

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:00 by JVB66

The member next door to us was telling us his son has a Merc EV (company carundecided) and has had to have a faulty battery replaced under warranty as the batt cost is£42000 surprised

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:05

Batteries are cellular so only duff cells need be replaced. However, within warranty it's not a cost issue to the owner. My battery has an 8 year guarantee so it’s not something that concerns me in the least and I’d not listen to second hand scare stories if I was you.

 

JVB66 replied on 03/10/2022 18:14

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:05 by Tinwheeler

Batteries are cellular so only duff cells need be replaced. However, within warranty it's not a cost issue to the owner. My battery has an 8 year guarantee so it’s not something that concerns me in the least and I’d not listen to second hand scare stories if I was you.

 

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:14

He said it was the whole batt as when he first mentioned it that is what I said to him but he insisted it was a complete batt replacement  ,thanking you for your concern?smile

brue replied on 03/10/2022 20:09

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:03 by JVB66

Your car does not require insurance! Or MOT

Posted on 03/10/2022 20:09

The MOT was included in the price I quoted and the insurance I can't remember just now but not overly expensive. We get a free MOT next time as the garage was late doing the work today, their offer not our demand. smile

Battery replacements are nowhere near the cost you mentioned, in fact if ours ever need replacing it will be much cheaper than buying a new car.

You know, it's very odd but sometimes I think those who haven't run an EV seem to know more than I do but there you go,  we're happy with ours. 

EmilysDad replied on 03/10/2022 20:20

Posted on 03/10/2022 17:58 by brue

Just had our EV serviced, a two year requirement so at just under £400 that's our outlay for another two years. How much does it cost to service a big tow car nowadays? I'm out of touch. Our EV is 6 years old we've recouped the initial costs awhile ago, a pre-reg part x purchase . 

Posted on 03/10/2022 20:20

my 'big tow car' ..... 3.0 V6 diseasal was £170. Just how much can they charge for a gallon of oil & a look see? I suppose it depends where you take it on how much you'll pay. Smaller independent vs main dealer.

brue replied on 03/10/2022 21:52

Posted on 03/10/2022 21:52

We opt for the main dealer due to the electronics and computer systems involved with the EV although OH will go away and sort any mechanical replacements/repairs either doing it himself or using a local garage we use for the motorhome. 

We've had tow cars in the past, still run a motorhome so costs are nothing new to us and it's not really possible to do a like for like comparison. Generally the fuel costs of running the motorhome are high compared to the EV. smile

EmilysDad replied on 04/10/2022 08:05

Posted on 03/10/2022 21:52 by brue

We opt for the main dealer due to the electronics and computer systems involved with the EV although OH will go away and sort any mechanical replacements/repairs either doing it himself or using a local garage we use for the motorhome. 

We've had tow cars in the past, still run a motorhome so costs are nothing new to us and it's not really possible to do a like for like comparison. Generally the fuel costs of running the motorhome are high compared to the EV. smile

Posted on 04/10/2022 08:05

If you still run a motorhome, I'm sure you'd have been able to make a pretty good guess at servicing costs for a 'big tow car' 😉

brue replied on 04/10/2022 09:00

Posted on 04/10/2022 09:00

Yes that's true plus habitation checks. So generally the EV is the cheapest to run after initial costs, the motorhome is 10 years old and cost a similar part x secondhand amount to the EV. 

So although the motorhome has held it's value well the EV is still cheaper to run. wink

The recent question was about EV tow car running costs.smile

EmilysDad replied on 04/10/2022 09:30

Posted on 04/10/2022 09:00 by brue

Yes that's true plus habitation checks. So generally the EV is the cheapest to run after initial costs, the motorhome is 10 years old and cost a similar part x secondhand amount to the EV. 

So although the motorhome has held it's value well the EV is still cheaper to run. wink

The recent question was about EV tow car running costs.smile

Posted on 04/10/2022 09:30

 ... The recent question was about EV tow car running costs.

I know & I was answering your question .... 'How much does it cost to service a big tow car nowadays? I'm out of touch.'' 😘

JVB66 replied on 04/10/2022 10:47

Posted on 03/10/2022 20:09 by brue

The MOT was included in the price I quoted and the insurance I can't remember just now but not overly expensive. We get a free MOT next time as the garage was late doing the work today, their offer not our demand. smile

Battery replacements are nowhere near the cost you mentioned, in fact if ours ever need replacing it will be much cheaper than buying a new car.

You know, it's very odd but sometimes I think those who haven't run an EV seem to know more than I do but there you go,  we're happy with ours. 

Posted on 04/10/2022 10:47

I was just quoting what our neibough on site was telling us about his sons Merc company car so it was not my figure and how much is a Merc EV? 

He also said it was very heavy kerbweight so to give any range the batt is very bigsurprised

Ps our Kia Sportage 2ltr auto diesel was £230 on its last service with mot thrown in , at local independent in the village cool

DavidKlyne replied on 04/10/2022 11:46

Posted on 04/10/2022 11:46

Some might find this interesting, this is the latest Andrew Ditton YouTube video on the pros and cons of towing with an EV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2F62ejnvqk

I don't tow and whilst I would like to have an EV I can't really justify the extra cost for the small number of miles we do annually, that might change if we ever decide to give up motorhoming?  Perhaps an observation but I reckon the majority of drivers using EV's currently do so because they want to not because its been forced on them. OK company car drivers might have some tax advantages but private buyers don't have the same incentives. 

David

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook