Another long tow with an EV

ChocolateTrees replied on 23/07/2022 21:19

Posted on 23/07/2022 21:19

Great journey yesterday from South Northamptonshire to the Lake District, towing our 1550kg Unicorn Vigo, with our Polestar 2 LRDM. It’s our 7th or 8th holiday towing with the Polestar so are getting the hang of it.
Two stops, the first after 110 miles in Crew at an Instavolt. Insta was on a go slow at only 80kW max (49 mins)
Second stop 85 miles later at the South lakes Porsche experience center. Great 350kW charger peaked at 136kW for me (battery at 26%). Stopped for just 25mins. Then on to Borrowdale. The whole journey used 146kWh over 260 miles giving a potential range of 132 miles on a single charge. The first leg was even better (much flatter) with a potential range or 140miles towing.
In all just 75 mins of charging on a 7:25 min journey, but we had some long delays on the M6 (around 50 mins). Car was superb…
Total electricity cost, about £61, with about 40 solo miles left over at the end.

We did the same journey last October. I have learned 4 key things since then.
1) ultra-rapid chargers make a huge difference. I would love an EV6 as a tow car for that reason (though I am not sure I would give up the Polestar just for that).
2) there are a LOT more ultra-rapid chargers than just 8 months ago.
3) Gridserve MSA that replaced the Electric Highway chargers are NOT ultra-rapid, even though they are advertised as 120kW.
4) Plan to use as much of your charge as possible each time to maximise charge rate and minimise charge time. As the number of Ultra-rapid chargers grows, this gets easier.

The infrastructure is definitely not as bad either the press make out or people think it is, but it still has a long way to go!

Tinwheeler replied on 02/09/2022 17:59

Posted on 02/09/2022 17:59

Ah, sorry, I thought you were going to tell us about their towing experience.🤷🏻‍♂️

JVB66 replied on 02/09/2022 18:34

Posted on 02/09/2022 17:59 by Tinwheeler

Ah, sorry, I thought you were going to tell us about their towing experience.🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 02/09/2022 18:34

Do apologise I keep forgetting that you need things explained in minute details before you could understandundecided

 

ChocolateTrees replied on 05/09/2022 15:41

Posted on 25/08/2022 18:25 by Fastnet

Our van is 1,800kg.  Which EV tow car would the forum recommend? 

Posted on 05/09/2022 15:41

StuartL replied on 03/10/2022 17:48

Posted on 03/10/2022 17:48

I note that there is no mention in the above discussion of the initial cost of the vehicle which will be well beyond the means of many. How long  and over what mileage before these supposed fuel savings take to cover the extra cost of the vehicle, not forgetting  extra servicing costs. I note that in one case 1 hour is added to a 7 hour trip, an increase of 14% in journey time. Further, with almost every charging point it would appear to be necessary to unhitch the 'van and leave it somewhere in order to access  the charger and this assumes that you are able to even access the car park in which it is often located. 

It is for all these reasons that I continue to drive a tow car which covers 300 miles before I even  start to think about filling up, a process which adds 5-10 minutes to my trip!

 

brue replied on 03/10/2022 17:58

Posted on 03/10/2022 17:58

Just had our EV serviced, a two year requirement so at just under £400 that's our outlay for another two years. How much does it cost to service a big tow car nowadays? I'm out of touch. Our EV is 6 years old we've recouped the initial costs awhile ago, a pre-reg part x purchase . 

Tinwheeler replied on 03/10/2022 17:59

Posted on 03/10/2022 17:48 by StuartL

I note that there is no mention in the above discussion of the initial cost of the vehicle which will be well beyond the means of many. How long  and over what mileage before these supposed fuel savings take to cover the extra cost of the vehicle, not forgetting  extra servicing costs. I note that in one case 1 hour is added to a 7 hour trip, an increase of 14% in journey time. Further, with almost every charging point it would appear to be necessary to unhitch the 'van and leave it somewhere in order to access  the charger and this assumes that you are able to even access the car park in which it is often located. 

It is for all these reasons that I continue to drive a tow car which covers 300 miles before I even  start to think about filling up, a process which adds 5-10 minutes to my trip!

 

Posted on 03/10/2022 17:59

Just two points - the cost of EVs is falling and will soon be much the same as equivalent ICE cars.  Also, there are no 'extra' servicing costs and the cost of servicing an EV is very much less than for an ICE car as there are far fewer moving parts. The annual servicing cost of my EV averages at less that £100 so that’s an immediate saving.

JVB66 replied on 03/10/2022 18:00

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:00

The member next door to us was telling us his son has a Merc EV (company carundecided) and has had to have a faulty battery replaced under warranty as the batt cost is£42000 surprised

JVB66 replied on 03/10/2022 18:03

Posted on 03/10/2022 17:58 by brue

Just had our EV serviced, a two year requirement so at just under £400 that's our outlay for another two years. How much does it cost to service a big tow car nowadays? I'm out of touch. Our EV is 6 years old we've recouped the initial costs awhile ago, a pre-reg part x purchase . 

Posted on 03/10/2022 18:03

Your car does not require insurance! Or MOT

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