Swift Motorhome - Never Again

SeeFarers replied on 03/10/2021 09:36

Posted on 03/10/2021 09:36

The title is emotive and for good reason.  In late 2018 my wife and I, after 40+ years of camping and caravanning, purchased our first new motorhome, a £65k+ Swift Bessacarr 599.  The design and layout suited our desires and we expected it to see us out in our remaining touring time.

Disappointingly issues began within months.  Firstly, the Dometic fridge door shelves broke and we had several sets replaced under warranty before we realised they are not fit for purpose.  The fridge handbook states “Only store heavy objects such as bottles or cans in the refrigerator door, in the vegetable drawer or on the bottom shelf”.  We did indeed store milk cartons, butter and jam etc  and these shelves repeatedly broke.  We now know other owners have had this issue but it has never been overcome.

The awning and solar panel both had attention from Swift travelling engineers to fit additional security.  I understand an awning nearly came off a van travelling on a motorway, so this was a serious safety concern for Swift and perhaps an indication that build standards were not satisfactory.

The 599 model comes with an external, under floor pannier drawer, which was the next issue that became unusable within 18 months.  There is no protection for the drawer runners against road spray and dirt so these became corroded and jammed.  More shocking on a vehicle of this supposed quality was to find the drawer runners are the same type to be found in office filing cabinets, i.e. made of mild steel and guaranteed to rust in a very short time when placed where they are.  It has taken my dealer nearly a year to get replacement runners from Swift.  As an engineer I took it upon myself to fit baffles and stainless steel runners to alleviate the problem.  So far so good but the original design and materials are not fit for purpose.  This feature I believe, is still available on 2022 Swift Kontiki models, the equivalent of mine.

Our shower wall has developed a crack which is still waiting a replacement from Swift after 6 months!  Whilst we realise we are in difficult times, it is small comfort to know we can buy a new Swift motorhome quicker than get warranty parts for ours.

Recently, cracking in the paintwork was discovered on the front nearside wheel arch.  The cause and responsibility of this is still being debated and of course a warranty claim has been submitted by our dealer.

In all, no communication has been received from Swift to explain the appalling delays or apologies for them.  We are terribly disappointed in our new motorhome when we should be proud and happy.  Never again.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/10/2021 16:42

Posted on 05/10/2021 15:18 by JVB66

We have been considering a wildaxe PVC but just hope they can fit a Thetford  toilet instead of the by reports very. poor do etic as fitted at present

Posted on 05/10/2021 16:42

The answer was "no" when we asked. 

However, the Dometic has not given any trouble so far 🤞🤞🤞

 

Apologies, OP, let's stick to Swift.

Whittakerr replied on 05/10/2021 16:49

Posted on 05/10/2021 16:40 by cyberyacht

Whittakerr wrote "To balance things i have had my current Swift Challenger for 11 years from new and i have only had 2 minor problems with it that were corrected under warranty and i've been very happy with it."

In which case, given there adverse comments about the major manufacturers current standards, perhaps you should keep the one you have. What will a new one give you that you don't already have except perhaps "exciting new decals"?

Posted on 05/10/2021 16:49

Since my wife passed away i do a lot of trips with my granddaughter. The fixed double bed layout of my current caravan isn't the ideal layout anymore so i am changing it to a layout that better suites my current circumstances.

Extugger replied on 06/10/2021 10:10

Posted on 06/10/2021 10:10

 

Dometic are a Swedish owned company, so one would expect quality products. However, with an operating profit of approx £1.5bn (2020) and shareholders to pay since November 2015, they're highly unlikely to give a flying fig about your 'faulty' fridge, concentrating more on numbers and profits, thus leaving the dealerships to take the flack. No doubt they have an extensive aftersales team.

Thetford are an American manufacturer who concentrate on the manufacturing of quality sanitary products and specialist fridges for the leisure industry. Not so much a "Jack of all trades" . In my later years of caravanning, I've used both products. I would say the latter are definitely better quality.

It's very disappointing to read posts about repeatedly defective and poor quality workmanship, particularly in 'flagship' products, but with absolutely no one to complain to (other than your dealer) and no one to champion your cause, this unregulated industry just keeps rolling on (NCC don't count imho) 

I hope your problems are resolved soon Seefarers.  I too have learnt my lesson re Swift.

 

 

 
 
 

SeeFarers replied on 06/10/2021 20:38

Posted on 06/10/2021 20:38

I do not expect any supplier such as Dometic to care about my problems but I do expect Swift to and that is the rub.  My dealer has placed warranty claims on my behalf but seems unable to get any movement from Swift.  Dates for delivery of parts are continuously put back.

I spent a lot to buy this van less than three years ago and I would not buy another from Swift.  My van satisfies our needs but its ownership has been a headache due to the manufacturer.  I am now not in the mood to accept any excuses from Swift for my predicament.

I agree that Thetford products are better and I would change if it was up to me and Thatford built a model that would fit.

 

ScreenNameDF3E82BEDB replied on 16/03/2022 08:56

Posted on 04/10/2021 15:16 by GTrimmer

'Our'  Club is a member of the NCC , as are these manufacturers.....

Posted on 16/03/2022 08:56

I’m actually a seasoned corporate investigator, MD of a Private Criminal Prosecution business and one that builds class action cases against offending organisations for failings and negligence of this very sort.

I’ve also recently acquired an £80k+ Kon-Tiki 596 Sport GP and have found an assortment of major issues within days of ownership.  I can tell you that these issues are all clearly known and are mainly being ignored, by the manufacturers and therefore there will be no excuses that will support them, in any Court room, if they try to fob me off, when I get round to making a start on demanding fixes under the warranties etc.  I’m equally VERY disappointed to hear how many other customers have been treated actually and firmly believe that this is a huge class action waiting to happen, so let’s see what evidence I gather when I start to address my long list folks.

I’m not touting for business, but I would be prepared to perform a mass class-action, in support of this membership group, (Pro-Bono) and if my investigations into these ongoing Swift build quality concerns continue to surface, as I’m convinced they will.

Watch this space.

Mr Morris - Northamptonshire 

SeasideBill replied on 16/03/2022 11:34

Posted on 16/03/2022 11:34

Interesting….poor build quality (and after care) seems to be an issue with too many manufacturers these days including mine (Knaus/Weinsberg). Is it just complacently on their part or something more systematic across the industry? Maybe too much money is chasing too few motorhomes so manufacturers don’t have to try very hard? I can’t imagine a common situation like this in the automotive industry. If you’ve got £60k or more to spend on a car dealers generally treat you like royalty.

bill replied on 16/03/2022 11:44

Posted on 16/03/2022 11:44

I used to be a big fan of the Swift Group's products but they seem to have obtained a terrible reputation for poor quality of the last few years.  Really sad !

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obbernockle replied on 16/03/2022 21:40

Posted on 16/03/2022 21:40

Swift chose their supplier. Not us. We don't care where Swift buy their material from, and it is not our responsibility to care about that. We buy our caravans from retailers  and our sales contract is with them. Dealers always want to pass the buck to either the caravan maker or the fitted equipment maker, but this is not acceptable at all. We hand our money to the dealer and they are responsible for the entire product. The industry stinks.

SeeFarers replied on 17/03/2022 10:13

Posted on 17/03/2022 10:13

Thank you for all the postings as it helps to understand the state of the motorhome industry and the quality of the products their advertising purports to convey.

As an update to my original posting some five months ago, my motorhome is finally booked in at my dealer to have the shower cubicle replaced.  It will be a little over one year since the fault was first reported.

With regard to the external pannier drawer which I modified myself (within warranty), it is working fine with no issues that plagued the original setup. After a year, a new set of replacement drawer runners were supplied by Swift, but were still the same type as the originals (mild steel cabinet runners) so I'll use them in my workshop.

I am resigned to living with the Dometic fridge shelves that are too brittle and break.  I have several door shelves now in stock, supplied by my dealer but continue to use my original broken shelves that I have modified and strengthened to be fit for purpose.

I continue to be pleased with the design of my motorhome but the quality is disappointing.  Other niggly issues still crop up but I endeavour to overcome them myself.  My motorhome is now out of warranty so I feel free to carry out my own improvements.

Mr Morris, you are quite right that many faults are long standing and are never resolved.  Some are due to poor design or materials and maybe are prevalent in the whole industry.  I shall indeed watch your space.

 

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