Swift Motorhome - Never Again

SeeFarers replied on 03/10/2021 09:36

Posted on 03/10/2021 09:36

The title is emotive and for good reason.  In late 2018 my wife and I, after 40+ years of camping and caravanning, purchased our first new motorhome, a £65k+ Swift Bessacarr 599.  The design and layout suited our desires and we expected it to see us out in our remaining touring time.

Disappointingly issues began within months.  Firstly, the Dometic fridge door shelves broke and we had several sets replaced under warranty before we realised they are not fit for purpose.  The fridge handbook states “Only store heavy objects such as bottles or cans in the refrigerator door, in the vegetable drawer or on the bottom shelf”.  We did indeed store milk cartons, butter and jam etc  and these shelves repeatedly broke.  We now know other owners have had this issue but it has never been overcome.

The awning and solar panel both had attention from Swift travelling engineers to fit additional security.  I understand an awning nearly came off a van travelling on a motorway, so this was a serious safety concern for Swift and perhaps an indication that build standards were not satisfactory.

The 599 model comes with an external, under floor pannier drawer, which was the next issue that became unusable within 18 months.  There is no protection for the drawer runners against road spray and dirt so these became corroded and jammed.  More shocking on a vehicle of this supposed quality was to find the drawer runners are the same type to be found in office filing cabinets, i.e. made of mild steel and guaranteed to rust in a very short time when placed where they are.  It has taken my dealer nearly a year to get replacement runners from Swift.  As an engineer I took it upon myself to fit baffles and stainless steel runners to alleviate the problem.  So far so good but the original design and materials are not fit for purpose.  This feature I believe, is still available on 2022 Swift Kontiki models, the equivalent of mine.

Our shower wall has developed a crack which is still waiting a replacement from Swift after 6 months!  Whilst we realise we are in difficult times, it is small comfort to know we can buy a new Swift motorhome quicker than get warranty parts for ours.

Recently, cracking in the paintwork was discovered on the front nearside wheel arch.  The cause and responsibility of this is still being debated and of course a warranty claim has been submitted by our dealer.

In all, no communication has been received from Swift to explain the appalling delays or apologies for them.  We are terribly disappointed in our new motorhome when we should be proud and happy.  Never again.

SeeFarers replied on 05/10/2021 13:35

Posted on 05/10/2021 13:35

vbfg - no disrespect intended in my response to you and others but it is often the case that the focus of an original topic is lost when postings veer away from the subject matter.  In this case it is my contention that my Swift Motorhome has original fittings that are of poor quality, not fit for purpose and that despite being in warranty, it is taking many months to get replacement parts. Ultimately they are responsible for the equipment they choose to install.

Swift should get the message that their existing customers are more important than their prospective customers.  Because we existing customers may well dissuade the prospective customer by broadcasting our grievences, which have been allowed to fester.

For example, I have a friend who has a small motorhome that often attracts interest from passers by, but because of long standing issues and lack of action by the manufacturer/supplier, my friend is an unhappy owner and actively dissuades them from pursuing their interest.

vbfg replied on 05/10/2021 14:20

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:20

Thank you. You do have a point as I have lost posts which I have made (I am not very tech savvy) so have sometimes missed an answer or reply. I do sympathise with you and agree that it is only by giving a company bad publicity, that they may make better efforts to help resolve their customers problems.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/10/2021 14:27

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:27

I wish I had a quid for every bit of bad publicity Swift have had over the years! 

What difference has it made? Absolutely none 😖

Whittakerr replied on 05/10/2021 14:35

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:27 by Tinwheeler

I wish I had a quid for every bit of bad publicity Swift have had over the years! 

What difference has it made? Absolutely none 😖

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:35

Or almost every other caravan manufacture, (or caravan assembler of third party parts).

Tinwheeler replied on 05/10/2021 14:37

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:35 by Whittakerr

Or almost every other caravan manufacture, (or caravan assembler of third party parts).

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:37

Yep, there isn’t much to choose between any of them.

vbfg replied on 05/10/2021 15:10

Posted on 05/10/2021 14:35 by Whittakerr

Or almost every other caravan manufacture, (or caravan assembler of third party parts).

Posted on 05/10/2021 15:10

I do think that due to the more recent habit of posting internet reviews and social media posts, bad publicity IS more likely to do some harm to manufacturers than it used to previously, but it takes some time to do so.  In the case of caravans, motorhomes, 3 way fridges/freezers etc, much of the problem is that we are in a way, a captive audience as there are only certain companies which make them which puts us at a disadvantage as there are so few brands to choose from.  it is very surprising really when you think of the technology and innovation which there is in new cars, TVs, computing, etc but this technology and innovation does not seem to extend to vehicles used for touring or the fridges/freezers which they are fitted with!

JVB66 replied on 05/10/2021 15:18

Posted on 05/10/2021 15:18

We have been considering a wildaxe PVC but just hope they can fit a Thetford  toilet instead of the by reports very. poor do etic as fitted at present

Whittakerr replied on 05/10/2021 15:42

Posted on 05/10/2021 15:10 by vbfg

I do think that due to the more recent habit of posting internet reviews and social media posts, bad publicity IS more likely to do some harm to manufacturers than it used to previously, but it takes some time to do so.  In the case of caravans, motorhomes, 3 way fridges/freezers etc, much of the problem is that we are in a way, a captive audience as there are only certain companies which make them which puts us at a disadvantage as there are so few brands to choose from.  it is very surprising really when you think of the technology and innovation which there is in new cars, TVs, computing, etc but this technology and innovation does not seem to extend to vehicles used for touring or the fridges/freezers which they are fitted with!

Posted on 05/10/2021 15:42

Its a question of scale vbfg. The caravan/motorhome market is very small compared to cars, tvs, computing etc. using your examples. For example a bought a brand new car in 2019, a BMW, designed in Germany, parts manufactured globally, assembled in South Carolina USA, and shipped to me in the UK. Can you imagine such a production run for a caravan?

As it happens I have just ordered a new caravan for delivery next spring (fingers and toes crossed), I was speaking to a dealer who contacted Bailey on my behalf and found out the production run for the model i was interested in had been cut from 14,000 units to less than 4,500 units. Needles to say, i didn't order one, and i haven't ordered a Bailey.

To balance things i have had my current Swift Challenger for 11 years from new and i have only had 2 minor problems with it that were corrected under warranty and i've been very happy with it.

Graydjames replied on 05/10/2021 16:30

Posted on 05/10/2021 16:30

I have had a few minor issues with my Swift van, but these have been so minor that I have sorted them myself - mostly internal fittings coming loose or cupboards not shutting properly. It had to go back for a recall issue - a new roof covering was fitted to cure a translucent roof problem. This was dealt with properly and without fuss and, of course, without cost. Otherwise no major issues at all and nothing else for which I have had to go back to a dealer for repair or rectification. 

I think these things are a bit of a lottery. It shouldn't be - it should always be right - but sadly motorhome manufacture remains rather like car manufacture was 30 years ago.

I would be quite happy to buy another Swift - but I might have my fingers crossed!     

cyberyacht replied on 05/10/2021 16:40

Posted on 05/10/2021 16:40

Whittakerr wrote "To balance things i have had my current Swift Challenger for 11 years from new and i have only had 2 minor problems with it that were corrected under warranty and i've been very happy with it."

In which case, given there adverse comments about the major manufacturers current standards, perhaps you should keep the one you have. What will a new one give you that you don't already have except perhaps "exciting new decals"?

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