Motorhome waste point

dougA replied on 28/05/2019 19:56

Posted on 28/05/2019 19:56

Just back from Stonehaven club site. Excellent site all round and very well maintained by the wardens 👍.

While at the above site on the day of departure I noticed 2 motorhomes drive over the motorhome waste point and started to empty there waste water with the drain cover still closed. When I empty my waste water at the drain I lift off the drain cover to let the water go straight into the drain then replace the drain cover when finished.

What is the correct procedure when there is no grid and it’s a wast point with a cover over it?

I also had a polite word with a gentleman whom had lifted the waste point drain cover and emptied his toilet waste down the waste drain 🤔.

rayjsj replied on 02/06/2019 22:02

Posted on 02/06/2019 14:26 by KeithandMargaret

The main difference between UK sites and French Aires is that the Aire was specifically built for Motorhome use and drainage while UK sites were primarily designed for Caravan users.

Now, after the name change, the Club are trying to catch you and improve where possible.

But doing major drainage work on sites such as Chatsworth, open all year and high capacity usage, is not one for the faint hearted.

Paying premium price and having a focal point of the narrow drive round the site dug up for some time is not good for business or the frayed temper of visitors.

Just as an aside - in the MSM area we use the Aire at Hirel for overnighting (â‚Ŧ5 collected) with two free Bornes, bread delivered and the bay across the road.

Posted on 02/06/2019 22:02

Converting existing Motorhome waste drains into drive over grille types is not Major drainage work, a couple of hours with a mini digger then 24hours or so while the concrete and tarmac goes hard.

Moreton in Marsh were doing theirs whilst we were there a few weeks ago.

Chirk needs it doing too. extra heavy hatches there.Hold on back....help is coming.

 

 

 

huskydog replied on 02/06/2019 22:08

Posted on 02/06/2019 22:02 by rayjsj

Converting existing Motorhome waste drains into drive over grille types is not Major drainage work, a couple of hours with a mini digger then 24hours or so while the concrete and tarmac goes hard.

Moreton in Marsh were doing theirs whilst we were there a few weeks ago.

Chirk needs it doing too. extra heavy hatches there.Hold on back....help is coming.

 

 

 

Posted on 02/06/2019 22:08

They were doing that when we were there in March ,so it seems to take a bit longer than 24 hours wink

rayjsj replied on 02/06/2019 22:14

Posted on 30/05/2019 15:51 by DavidKlyne

I have seen people do that so you are not alone. However it might hide a problem with people being able to open those drain covers. I struggle and purchased a long handled drain puller from Ebay. It would help if the Club attached a knotted rope pull which would make it easier to remove the drain but I suspect that might be a H&S issue as it might become a trip hazard?

David

Posted on 02/06/2019 22:14

 That might explain the terrible drain hatch covers at Chirk...no visible sign of any way to lift them. Hold on those arent rivet heads, but coach bolt heads...which you are supposed to pull out and use as handles !!!! whoever thought of that one ?

Several drained out onto the tops of the covers !

and I do not blame them. Plus they are back breakingly heavy....roll on grilles.

EmilysDad replied on 02/06/2019 23:22

Posted on 02/06/2019 22:48 by JVB66

Was it a problem to be care full of that's why when visitingsurprised

Posted on 02/06/2019 23:22

The site was at bleak Leek .... you didn't need a step ladder to get onto the drain, but the grid did appear to higher than the surrounding road surface. I add that I only observed this as I drove passed in my car on the way back to my caravan 🙄

SteveL replied on 03/06/2019 07:24

Posted on 03/06/2019 07:24

The description on the web site is a little ambiguous, they all seem to be described as:-

Drive over waste disposal for motorhomes

To me the term suggests the grid type. I don't regard driving over a manhole, which then has to be extracted from under the MH as Drive over.

I presume the phrase is historic, from when not all sites had a manhole system. Now it really needs changing to drive over grid, where these have been installed.

JVB66 replied on 03/06/2019 07:31

Posted on 03/06/2019 07:24 by SteveL

The description on the web site is a little ambiguous, they all seem to be described as:-

Drive over waste disposal for motorhomes

To me the term suggests the grid type. I don't regard driving over a manhole, which then has to be extracted from under the MH as Drive over.

I presume the phrase is historic, from when not all sites had a manhole system. Now it really needs changing to drive over grid, where these have been installed.

Posted on 03/06/2019 07:31

You need to upgrade your inadequate M/C waste outlet to some thing user friendly, coolwink

Justus2 replied on 03/06/2019 08:05

Posted on 03/06/2019 08:05

I can remember a time, when I first started with tents and later caravans, and before the aqua-roll and waste-master had been invented. In those days people used to carry 2 or 5 gallon fresh water and 2 or 5 gallon waste water to and from the taps and disposal points, sometimes using luggage trolleys. In those days the waste drains were sometimes up to knee high, to aid the disposal of a carried waste container. 

Along came the advent of the aqua-roll and waste-master, which required a ground level waste grill. As I recall all the higher level waste disposal points were removed fairly quickly to accommodate these new fangled wheeled waste containers which many caravanners had bought.

The need for drive over waste disposal for modern motor homes is exactly the same, but for MHs rather than caravans.. The point being, that site facilities are changed to suit changing demands, and the quicker things are changed, the happier people are with those provided facilities. I can also remember a time when 240 mains for a caravan was unheard of, and that too was introduced fairly quickly, to meet increasing demand. The problem we have here, is that this club is rather too slow to get things fully sorted on all of their sites. 

 

SteveL replied on 03/06/2019 08:36

Posted on 03/06/2019 07:31 by JVB66

You need to upgrade your inadequate M/C waste outlet to some thing user friendly, coolwink

Posted on 03/06/2019 08:36

I would put it the other way round. It seems very adequate over some I have observed. It's about a 40mm outlet, with only a short run from an insulated tank. Therefore empties quickly and should not have any freezing issues. It even comes with a 1.8 metre flexible extension. Unfortunately none of that helps lift the lids.😉☹ī¸

JVB66 replied on 03/06/2019 09:19

Posted on 03/06/2019 08:36 by SteveL

I would put it the other way round. It seems very adequate over some I have observed. It's about a 40mm outlet, with only a short run from an insulated tank. Therefore empties quickly and should not have any freezing issues. It even comes with a 1.8 metre flexible extension. Unfortunately none of that helps lift the lids.😉☹ī¸

Posted on 03/06/2019 09:19

Is it because its more of  wimpy/older owners that are having problems as since M/Cs owners were  accepted as members in the 1970s the "problem" has only in the last couple of years wink

P.s it took a couple of days per MC service point to be installed at Clumber Park as all the waste/water supplies  needed alteringsurprised

 

 

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