Posted on 07/05/2018 23:11
hi guys ,could I just ask please ,what are your honest opinions of motorhomes dumping grey waste on the move on a public highway,
im asking cos I started a thread about this on another forum a few weeks ago and got shot down ,just wandering what your opinions were?
Brian & Jo
Posted on 23/05/2018 17:18 by JVB66As long as it is far away from any chance of some one (UK of course)not trying to make a claim when they "fall"
The ones on cc sites have similariTunes but covered to mitigate as far as possible any claims
Posted on 23/05/2018 09:32 byI think some of you folk want jam on it as well.
Posted on 23/05/2018 17:27
no, just a bit of sensible thought as part of the basic design....
this just shows it's as easy to make a slapdash effort as it is to make it far better....
DK gets Margaret to line him up...good old Margaret, if you have a co driver that's great.....I do.....but plenty of MH owners don't and they then spend unneccesary time manoevring when it shouldn't be required.
just about every village aire in Europe can manage a square of concrete with a tiny fall away that makes dropping grey waste a simple task...
...but then, we are talking about a MH friendly institution....
Justus2 mentions it's difficult for him to line his waste pipe up, but with a simple 'catchment' design, left/right/centre positioned outlets are all catered for with no need for any turning around....
i realise that CC won't change what they've started and we've now got 20 years worth of 'making the best of a bad design' as posted above.....
so I won't hold my breath..but it doesn't stop me posting that I think they've missed an opportunity to really make a difference rather than coming up with 'the best of a bad design'.....
5/10 for effort, see me
...and, Alan, as you specifically mentioned it, I'm pretty good at finding the loo from quite long range
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Posted on 23/05/2018 17:27 by young thomasno, just a bit of sensible thought as part of the basic design....
this just shows it's as easy to make a slapdash effort as it is to make it far better....
DK gets Margaret to line him up...good old Margaret, if you have a co driver that's great.....I do.....but plenty of MH owners don't and they then spend unneccesary time manoevring when it shouldn't be required.
just about every village aire in Europe can manage a square of concrete with a tiny fall away that makes dropping grey waste a simple task...
...but then, we are talking about a MH friendly institution....
Justus2 mentions it's difficult for him to line his waste pipe up, but with a simple 'catchment' design, left/right/centre positioned outlets are all catered for with no need for any turning around....
i realise that CC won't change what they've started and we've now got 20 years worth of 'making the best of a bad design' as posted above.....
so I won't hold my breath..but it doesn't stop me posting that I think they've missed an opportunity to really make a difference rather than coming up with 'the best of a bad design'.....
5/10 for effort, see me
...and, Alan, as you specifically mentioned it, I'm pretty good at finding the loo from quite long range
Posted on 23/05/2018 09:40 by SteveLThat is out of the way, in an area where folk walking to and from the block aren't going to have to paddle through any unhosed dumping. The benifit with the CC type is, as long as folk line up, the grid is wide and nothing should spill on the surround. I very much doubt with the design in your link many get over the actual drain. So in my opinion not really suitable for in front of facility location.
I think the CC have made the best of a bad job with the design.
Posted on 23/05/2018 17:37
...but Steve, why does the MHSP have to be 'in front of a facility location'? a MHSP drain can run for many metres back into the main drains..
I would have thought that having MH stopping in front of the 'facility' isn't good any way, blocking views of folk crossing the road etc, a hazard in itself, surely? as are MH pulling in and driving away regularly.
this should be done away from busy areas, hence no issue with trip hazards (I've never come close to tripping on a French aire waste point) or with visibility for folk who have nothing to do with the MH....
as said many, many times..The French, German, Spanish et al have had this sort of thing in operation in towns/villages all over for donkeys years and the 'default' design from all that vast experience is as DD describes...
why CC thinks it can reinvent the wheel I don't know....theirs certainly isn't round....
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Posted on 23/05/2018 17:37 by young thomas...but Steve, why does the MHSP have to be 'in front of a facility location'? a MHSP drain can run for many metres back into the main drains..
I would have thought that having MH stopping in front of the 'facility' isn't good any way, blocking views of folk crossing the road etc, a hazard in itself, surely? as are MH pulling in and driving away regularly.
this should be done away from busy areas, hence no issue with trip hazards (I've never come close to tripping on a French aire waste point) or with visibility for folk who have nothing to do with the MH....
as said many, many times..The French, German, Spanish et al have had this sort of thing in operation in towns/villages all over for donkeys years and the 'default' design from all that vast experience is as DD describes...
why CC thinks it can reinvent the wheel I don't know....theirs certainly isn't round....
Posted on 23/05/2018 17:44
It would not matter what shape anything is "some" will find fault
One thing that flaws the argument about water will "run" for long distances it also needs a "fall" to accomplish it, which would also restrict where they are placed and you cannot have a soakaway with grey waste in many places
Posted on 23/05/2018 17:49
The best MHSP I’ve come across is at Wood Farm AS, Charmouth.
It's in a separate area beside reception out of the way of passing traffic and pedestrians. It has centrally mounted taps with a long gridded drain. The whole area is sloped so water runs into the drain it’s very difficult to miss. Simple!
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Posted on 23/05/2018 18:51
...but Steve, why does the MHSP have to be 'in front of a facility location'? a MHSP drain can run for many metres back into the main drains..
Clearly it doesn't. However, placing them elsewhere would require a suitable available space that could be connected to the drainage system. This would almost certainly be more expensive. I can only assume the CC does not wish to spend that sort of money.
The two I have seen at Hawes and Cirencester are relatively inexpensive constructions. Certainly if / when we get a MH I would much rather use them than having to lift a grid.
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