Electric car charging on Club sites

replied on 28/11/2022 19:11

Posted on 28/11/2022 19:11

I arrived at the Broadway CC site yesterday 27 November for11 nights. I towed my caravan with (a new to us) 2 year old Volvo V60 Recharge PHEV. The car has an eleven kwh electric motor which provides power for around 25 miles which is enough for our pottering around town and the 2ltr petrol engine operates in hybrid mode when electric is exhausted or use halted or in 4 wheel drive.

I plugged the car in with charge rate set at 6 amps to prevent any overloading of the bollard. I have now been advised that the CCcharge NINE POUNDS PER DAY to plug in either a full electric (40-100kwh batteries) or a PHEV with an 11kwh battery. I am being charged over 80p per kilowatt for a full charge from empty. This is twice the rate at some public charge points and four times my domestic rate. A 40kwh charge from empty would equate to just 22p per kw and a 100 kwh battery would cost just 9p per kw.

This is clearly inequitable and it can't be beyond the wit of man to require electric or PHEV vehicle owners to declare at booking the kwh rating of the cars battery and a charge be levied accordingly instead of one flat rate regardless. I have now resorted to using the car petrol engine to charge the battery on CC Club sites. This defeats the whole concept of electric car use, charging and environmental responsibilities with the rip off and ill thought out CC &MH charging policies.

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ChocolateTrees replied on 07/12/2022 21:59

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Posted on 07/12/2022 19:39 by eurortraveller

If one fuel station is offering me what I consider too high a price to fill my car with diesel I don’t write to a forum - I go and fill up somewhere else.

Why do some owners of electric cars do the opposite?

Posted on 07/12/2022 21:59

Because unlike diesel, the cost of electricity is regulated and profits taking from its resale is prohibited.

replied on 07/12/2022 22:14

Posted on 07/12/2022 21:57 by ChocolateTrees

I am curious as to what preferential treatment for EV drivers over ICE drivers you believe has been asked for?

So far I have heard a request for more equality amongst EV drivers (PHEV vs BEV) on appropriate charging costs, and an expression of the potential legality or otherwise of the clubs stance on EV charge costs.

Posted on 07/12/2022 22:14

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ChocolateTrees replied on 07/12/2022 22:29

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Posted on 07/12/2022 22:14 by

Simply being allowed to charge on site. EV users should either have to go off site or have dedicated charging points made available. As MH should be able to refill LPG tanks on site.

Posted on 07/12/2022 22:29

That’s not preferential treatment, any more than a motorhome can use a drive over waste waste point where a caravan can’t. It’s simply using the sites capabilities with the users equipment.
If a site had an LPG pump, there is no reason at all it couldn’t be used to fill a safe fill bottle, or MH or car LPG tank. They just don’t have them 🤷‍♂️ Should I be upset because I can’t use a TV repeater bollard, because I don’t take a TV with me?

Tinwheeler replied on 07/12/2022 22:31

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Posted on 07/12/2022 22:14 by

Simply being allowed to charge on site. EV users should either have to go off site or have dedicated charging points made available. As MH should be able to refill LPG tanks on site.

Posted on 07/12/2022 22:31

The electricity is already there supplying the LV to be used in whatever way the pitch occupier sees fit.

There are no dispensing LPG pumps on pitches (in the same way as there are no diesel pumps) so it is not a like for like situation.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 07/12/2022 22:42

Rocky 2 buckets

Posted on 07/12/2022 22:31 by Tinwheeler

The electricity is already there supplying the LV to be used in whatever way the pitch occupier sees fit.

There are no dispensing LPG pumps on pitches (in the same way as there are no diesel pumps) so it is not a like for like situation.

Posted on 07/12/2022 22:42

I guess that’s along the lines of awning heater or no awning heater? EV or no EV👍🏻

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Tinwheeler replied on 07/12/2022 22:47

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Posted on 07/12/2022 22:42 by Rocky 2 buckets

I guess that’s along the lines of awning heater or no awning heater? EV or no EV👍🏻

Posted on 07/12/2022 22:47

We might yet see EV drivers considered to be pariahs 🤣🤣🤣

mickysf replied on 07/12/2022 23:31

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Posted on 07/12/2022 23:31

Oh, let’s just get round to paying for what we consume, that’s the only fair way!

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GEandGJE replied on 08/12/2022 02:02

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Posted on 08/12/2022 02:02

Charging an EV should be done at a dedicated charging point and the club should consider a partnership with with a EV charging point company to offset any cost to the club.

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ChocolateTrees replied on 08/12/2022 07:55

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Posted on 08/12/2022 02:02 by GEandGJE

Charging an EV should be done at a dedicated charging point and the club should consider a partnership with with a EV charging point company to offset any cost to the club.

Posted on 08/12/2022 07:55

I don’t think paying for EV charging is in dispute. EV drivers should not have a free ride (pun intended). Installing full EV chargers would be one option, but it needs space (which may not be available), and won’t solve electricity use on pitch issue. Indeed it could make it worse. Providing say 2 to 4 paid for chargers, and then having a site full of 16A bollards with no metering is asking for abuse. Not that I condone that or would participate. But if you needed a charge, the chargers were full, you had nothing else running overnight, and an available socket, it would be seriously tempting to plug in. Especially if your neighbour was running a fan heater all night.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 08/12/2022 08:27

Rocky 2 buckets

Posted on 08/12/2022 07:55 by ChocolateTrees

I don’t think paying for EV charging is in dispute. EV drivers should not have a free ride (pun intended). Installing full EV chargers would be one option, but it needs space (which may not be available), and won’t solve electricity use on pitch issue. Indeed it could make it worse. Providing say 2 to 4 paid for chargers, and then having a site full of 16A bollards with no metering is asking for abuse. Not that I condone that or would participate. But if you needed a charge, the chargers were full, you had nothing else running overnight, and an available socket, it would be seriously tempting to plug in. Especially if your neighbour was running a fan heater all night.

Posted on 08/12/2022 08:27

Plus it would need a bank of them, in time they will be well used. GE&GJE makes an excellent point re partner👍🏻

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