Electric car charging on Club sites

replied on 28/11/2022 19:11

Posted on 28/11/2022 19:11

I arrived at the Broadway CC site yesterday 27 November for11 nights. I towed my caravan with (a new to us) 2 year old Volvo V60 Recharge PHEV. The car has an eleven kwh electric motor which provides power for around 25 miles which is enough for our pottering around town and the 2ltr petrol engine operates in hybrid mode when electric is exhausted or use halted or in 4 wheel drive.

I plugged the car in with charge rate set at 6 amps to prevent any overloading of the bollard. I have now been advised that the CCcharge NINE POUNDS PER DAY to plug in either a full electric (40-100kwh batteries) or a PHEV with an 11kwh battery. I am being charged over 80p per kilowatt for a full charge from empty. This is twice the rate at some public charge points and four times my domestic rate. A 40kwh charge from empty would equate to just 22p per kw and a 100 kwh battery would cost just 9p per kw.

This is clearly inequitable  and it can't be beyond the wit of man to require electric or PHEV vehicle owners to declare at booking the kwh rating of the cars battery and a charge be levied accordingly instead of one flat rate regardless. I have now resorted to using the car petrol engine to charge the battery on CC Club sites. This defeats the whole concept of electric car use, charging and environmental responsibilities with the rip off and ill thought out  CC &MH charging policies.

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ChocolateTrees replied on 28/11/2022 20:05

Posted on 28/11/2022 20:05

Hi HB. The policy on EV and PHEV charging is posted on the club website, and it changed earlier this year. I used to tow with Volvo V60 PHEV, and now with a Polestar 2 BEV. 

The Club used to charge £1 for a PHEV and £8 for a BEV. That went up to £2 and £9 respectively, then they standardised on £9 for both as "Wardens could not tell the difference between a PHEV and EV" and "some EV owners were passing their cars off as PHEV". I am not convinced either statement is true. 

I raised the charging price with Off-Gem, in the context of their latest guide on EV charging costs, and they ruled that charging for more than the cost price of electricity when using a granny lead was against the terms of resale, and put this to the club. The club  have chosen to ignore the rules under the idea that caravans are not a "domestic setting", even though they were deemed so by Off-Gem several years ago.

For a PHEV, the cost is a rip-off, even with the recent rise in energy costs.  For a full EV, its more acceptable. 

I feel your pain. 

allanandjean replied on 28/11/2022 20:25

Posted on 28/11/2022 20:25

Hi, I don’t have an EV or hybrid vehicle but, as these vehicles are still in a minority, I would presume users would check the facilities on site and, in the process become aware of the costs?

I have no idea if the price is reasonable-or how it sits with the “reselling” requirement.

Hja replied on 28/11/2022 20:27

Posted on 28/11/2022 20:05 by ChocolateTrees

Posted on 28/11/2022 20:27

Pretty obvious if a car is PHEV or EV - one has a hole for a fuel hose to go into, the other doesnt!!

allanandjean replied on 28/11/2022 21:21

Posted on 28/11/2022 20:27 by Hja

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:21

Hi hja, 

In reference to my other response to you re EV charging, if the only fair way is metering, and to provide that costs, and cost a lot, then who pays?

Charging via your outfit may appear simple and straightforward but perhaps the recent price increases are focusing minds on the costs, especially where they reflect commercial and not domestic tariffs.

 

JVB66 replied on 28/11/2022 21:24

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:14 by brue

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:24

Or waiting to see how "dark the clouds are that are gathering" in this clubs seemingly"dash for cash" before looking at the subject more closely surprised

brue replied on 28/11/2022 21:32

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:32

It's strange on the story section, the quotes don't work but it's all been said before on EV discussions in the tow car section on the main CT forum. smile

JVB66 replied on 28/11/2022 21:40

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:32 by brue

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:40

The quotes are as  said by the finance director and then others on the Ct website 

There is an A4 notice in the office booking in area at FM advising of the charging rates for vehicles

DavidKlyne replied on 29/11/2022 09:40

Posted on 28/11/2022 21:32 by brue

It's strange on the story section, the quotes don't work but it's all been said before on EV discussions in the tow car section on the main CT forum. smile

Posted on 29/11/2022 09:40

Brue

The probable reason is that the Story Section is not really designed for a discussion just for comments? I have never quite got my mind round why people post obvious "discussion material" in the Story Section. Not blaming the posters but there must be something to do with the website that points them in the direction of Stories? I do move discussion material from stories but my concern is that the OP may never find his content if he is unfamiliar with CT?

David

RedKite replied on 29/11/2022 09:58

Posted on 29/11/2022 09:58

There is a public car park just the other side of the railway bridge same side as the site and that has two charging points so maybe be cheaper than on the club site.

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