So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 09/03/2019 21:18

Posted on 09/03/2019 21:18

"Btw, I agree that the thread should have been stopped after DSBs post. Says it all."

It's my opinion that it should have been stopped after the OP as it’s not long ago we had the same discussion and said the same things over and over and over…

replied on 10/03/2019 07:24

Posted on 09/03/2019 19:37 by moulesy

43 nights in 20 years? Hardly authoritative then and about the same for us over the past, say 3 years! smile

Posted on 10/03/2019 07:24

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young thomas replied on 10/03/2019 07:54

Posted on 09/03/2019 21:07 by huskydog

I must not call it "over there" ,it's a place that is not the UK 🇬🇧 and it will be different cool

Posted on 10/03/2019 07:54

Husky, I thought you were going to try it for yourself?wink

cyberyacht replied on 10/03/2019 08:06

Posted on 10/03/2019 08:06

Whilst the 'here' and 'there' aspect of this debate is rather pointless, I would pick up on one aspect of DSB's post. Aires do not need staffing in the conventional sense. Provision of facilities can be automated with only periodic maintenance/supervision required. That has a significant impact on overheads.

peedee replied on 10/03/2019 08:11

Posted on 10/03/2019 08:11

Good post David, (DSB) I see no point in quoting it again but is the Club going to be trapped in the ethos of the tugger for ever?  All change is difficult but is it really that impossible? In the right areas, it would get used and would be a way of increasing the member pitch ratios. I can well imagine planning permission is an obstacle but surely in tourist areas there is a better opportunity of obtaining requirements.  The Club has obtained planning for yurts etc. These certainly don’t serve all or match the ethos of a touring Club so why not simple sites or pitches for night stopping motorhomes?

As long as it stays civil and on subject, I would sooner the thread is kept open to see if the Club gives any feedback.

peedee

huskydog replied on 10/03/2019 08:24

Posted on 10/03/2019 07:54 by young thomas

Husky, I thought you were going to try it for yourself?wink

Posted on 10/03/2019 08:24

I will be at some point , but when I go I'm not expecting it to be better ,just different cool

moulesy replied on 10/03/2019 08:42

Posted on 10/03/2019 07:24 by

Moulsey

I have been a member of this club 36 years in total, certainly longer than most here and as such am not going to have my views just dismissed because I tour abroad and am not in awe of the club and all " its works".

I have just run through the current list of club sites and I find I have visited 19 of them in the last 20 years and  at least half a dozen earlier  that have since closed .

I find club sites have: clean facilities, hot water and short grass, are entirely predicable and if you have seen one you have more or less seen them all. As far as I am concerned they are convenient to book ,adequate for the odd night  but usually overpriced.

Thats my view and I wont hesitate to reiterate it next time attempts to bully me out of a conversation are tried.

 

Posted on 10/03/2019 08:42

Not trying to bully you at all David - why would you say that?

What you say about club sites is indisputable (although overpriced is a bit of a stretch when you compare prices with comparable sites in the UK with which the club is competing) and the reason many of us choose to use them.  You are entirely entitled to express your opinion, of course you are. Equally,  you have to acknowledge that there are many of us with far more recent experience of club sites.

I wouldn't dream of commenting on European sites on the basis of the ones we used when we were camping 20 years or so ago.

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