So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 09/03/2019 12:32

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:28 by Navigateur

And to totally ignore and exclude any planning for trailer caravans.

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:32

At least they don’t claim to be an all inclusive club.

replied on 09/03/2019 12:40

Posted on 09/03/2019 11:05 by Takethedogalong

Some folks have a very strange idea about touring over here. Fresh bread and coffee.....? We had to cut back on our intake of freshly baked bread on our Cornish holidays, it was so easy to get it each morning. We aren’t fans of bought coffee, preferring our own mix and own brew. But by the time OH had sorted coffee out, I was back from a short stroll with dogs to local shop carrying a still warm loaf of our choice......and homemade jams and lemon curd to go with it. It was and still remains our favourite part of the day. That’s of course if we weren’t on the beach for a swim early, taking breakfast with us to enjoy after!

I can give lessons in how to tour, stay, live, shop, enjoy ones self very happily in UK, as I am sure can lots of other folks who do the same as us. And in all sorts of weather. Despite having lovely holidays overseas, some appear to struggle when they are at home.🤔 I find an open minded, ability to compromise works well. Which is how I would go about a trip overseas, make the most of what the prevailing culture offers, and don’t impose different needs and demands just to suit myself.

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Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 12:46

Posted on 09/03/2019 08:34 by young thomas

I'd also use them, but did qualify to M that the main issue for us touring here is the booking culture and how one has to be much more 'prepared' to commit to a planned tour.

having to arrive at a certain place due to the booking puts pressure on potential dawdling....similarly, having to leave at the end of a booking is an issue if we wanted to stay longer...

ok, perhaps in off season, getting these bookings altered to extend or shorten might be doable (but more hassle than I'm interested in) but as we really only use the van here in 'good weather' (and sometimes New Year) a lot of sites are booked which makes alterations even less desirable.

now, if the transit pitches really were for passing trade......no booking, or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating....making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.

no leccy, large enough for caravans too, £12 max a night?

Ps, Mickey....I'm advocating max no of nights on these not min number which you seem so concerned about. I was thinking about fast turnover...and a decent price (not penny pinching) for a 'transit-style' pitch...

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:46

.no booking.... yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.

A guaranteed pitch with out booking??? Now that really is even beyond the laws of psychics (not a spelling mistake btw)

Post edit, sorry read these in order so see others have picked up on this impossibility.

replied on 09/03/2019 12:50

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:28 by Navigateur

And to totally ignore and exclude any planning for trailer caravans.

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:50

Obviously we are not part of a special needs group and s such are capable of making provision elsewhere

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 12:51

Posted on 09/03/2019 11:32 by young thomas

Mickey, if you remember, I wasn't advocating selling existing pitches 'cheaply'...I was for creating new ones from other areas of the sites...areas which bring little or no revenue at the moment..

so, actually increasing turnover and profit...wink 

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:51

existing areas such as car parks that serve others? or maybe the play area? dog walk? playing fieldsundecided 

I don't recall club sites having that much spare areas apart from those I have just said

And profit if there is an interest in such pitches, is there are from on here, and if done could lead to CLs shutting?

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 12:58

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:58

It appear, to me anyway, quite simple. If you want a cheap no frills site use a CL or similar, night stop. If you want to stay on a club and have all the benefits of a club site then pay up to use one.

You know what you are going to get in a club site price wise and facility wise, if that does not appeal don't use it.

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 13:02

Posted on 09/03/2019 10:18 by peedee

Don't see how a pitch could be guranteed unless you booked. Currently if I just turned up and a site was full and they had a late night arrivals area, I would hope I would be allowed to use it for the night without hook up if so desired.

peedee

 

Posted on 09/03/2019 13:02

of course, just remember you still have to pay before you leave EHU or not, anything else is called someone like stealing.

Navigateur replied on 09/03/2019 13:05

Posted on 09/03/2019 13:05

If you want a cheap no frills site use a CL or similar, night stop. If you want to stay on a club and have all the benefits of a club site then pay up to use one.

And further up (or is it down) the scale, if you want on-site bakery, pool, karioke, fancy dress contests, and such, there are commercial sites which will provide.

I think it comes down to some folk planning badly and ending up in the wrong place. The sites are, of course, in the right place.

Takethedogalong replied on 09/03/2019 13:05

Posted on 09/03/2019 13:05

Sure I would. Not sure where that one is, but Croatia looks fabulous. My sister spent time in Yugoslavia, can’t remember where, but she said it was a lovely place. I find trying to recall all Balkan countries and how they are now governed an exercise that needs constant reference, but Croatia really appeals. Lots of history, lots of Roman influences. And warmth on the Adriatic. Found it strange last time I swam in warm seas, that was Greece. No “oo ha, crikey, that’s cold” factor😂

Cornwall in September can be balmy on an incoming tide, once the sand underneath has warmed up. Have done the North Sea as well, (February, young and stupid!) memorable for the shiver factor! We used to be into wild swimming, (no wetsuits) but OH is now banned.

 

young thomas replied on 09/03/2019 13:39

Posted on 09/03/2019 12:46 by Cornersteady

.no booking.... yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.

A guaranteed pitch with out booking??? Now that really is even beyond the laws of psychics (not a spelling mistake btw)

Post edit, sorry read these in order so see others have picked up on this impossibility.

Posted on 09/03/2019 13:39

"... or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating.... making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival."

'twas one or the other...either no booking or as I typed as above...(and in my previous post).... which you (no doubt, deliberately) missed to make your point, as you omitted the salient part...undecided

in most places where we have used this type of facility, the short turnaround (max stay 24/48 hrs) keeps the flow moving and allows the many passing through to make use of them.

the only 'impossibility' is making sense of your biased, badly quoted, posts.

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