So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

moulesy replied on 09/03/2019 13:46

Posted on 09/03/2019 11:32 by young thomas

Mickey, if you remember, I wasn't advocating selling existing pitches 'cheaply'...I was for creating new ones from other areas of the sites...areas which bring little or no revenue at the moment..

so, actually increasing turnover and profit...wink 

Posted on 09/03/2019 13:46

And there's the dilemma for the club - you want new pitches, wherever, at a reduced price, DD is arguing for existing pitches at half price, PD probably wants something different from both of you. All the club can realistically be expected to do is to provide for the vast, vast majollity of its members. And this is what it does pretty well IMHO. The changes that would work for you wouldn't work for DD or, probably many others.

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 14:23

Posted on 09/03/2019 13:39 by young thomas

"... or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating.... making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival."

'twas one or the other...either no booking or as I typed as above...(and in my previous post).... which you (no doubt, deliberately) missed to make your point, as you omitted the salient part...undecided

in most places where we have used this type of facility, the short turnaround (max stay 24/48 hrs) keeps the flow moving and allows the many passing through to make use of them.

the only 'impossibility' is making sense of your biased, badly quoted, posts.

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:23

Good and selective try to dig yourself out of that one ( I'll pass on your remarks to the others that picked on on your error shall I?) apart from you put in a comma, (before the yet) and therefore (and I've checked with a former head of English here) the guaranteed pitch applies to both. It is called a serial comma. Others (ET, nav, and PD - I wonder why you only picked on me?) read it the same way as me I assume.

I've found a good site to help in future in making yourself clear.

here (the name of the web page has nothing to do with me btw)

Good flow perhaps but nothing except booking can guarantee a pitch. All it takes is someone to get in before you. 

 

replied on 09/03/2019 14:29

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:29

"... or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating.... making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival."

I'm not personally aware of there being relatively that many CC site users advocating what you propose that aren't catered for elsewhere and more appropriately perhaps. 

 

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 14:30

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:29 by

"... or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating.... making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival."

I'm not personally aware of there being relatively that many CC site users advocating what you propose. 

 

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:30

even with a one day in advance/max stay won't guarantee a pitch?

moulesy replied on 09/03/2019 14:41

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:29 by

"... or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating.... making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival."

I'm not personally aware of there being relatively that many CC site users advocating what you propose that aren't catered for elsewhere and more appropriately perhaps. 

 

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:41

Yes I agree. Are "many" advocating this? I've asked several times for estimates of what proportion of club MHers  (let alone MHers as a whole) might want to tour in UK for several weeks in the "continental style". Seems, to quote dear old Mr Rumpsfeld, to be one of the great unknown unknowns!  Hardly worth the the club making major moves in that directon with little evidence that it's required. 

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 14:45

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:45

I agree with both. Surely even those making any new style of anything, say shoes for example, test the market somehow to see if it will sell?

replied on 09/03/2019 14:49

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:49

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moulesy replied on 09/03/2019 14:56

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:49 by

Having listened to the views of some foreign visitors and another today I would like CC Ltd to accept that for the most part their sites are nothing but basic (power, water, waste, and public lav style facilities) similar to many Aires, etc. over here, and start pricing accordingly.  😋

Posted on 09/03/2019 14:56

Another afternoon in the jacuzzi? wink

Takethedogalong replied on 09/03/2019 15:03

Posted on 09/03/2019 15:03

Have you ever used CLs DD?

Edit: off topic, but might be of interest. As an ex Pools Manager, first rule of keeping healthy, avoid public jacuzzi’s. Unless you carry a water test kit. Once stayed with other like minded colleagues, conference at a big complex of hotels with three pools and six jacuzzis. For a laugh, before taking the plunge, we tested them all. Pools were fine, but five out of six jacuzzis didn’t pass. We opted for the pools. Languishing in other people’s warmed pee did nothing for us.........

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