So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Rufs replied on 06/03/2019 11:22

Posted on 06/03/2019 10:54 by Tinwheeler

Well, StuartO, look what you started! 

What do you think now - has your view changed having seen both sides of the debate?

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:22

my thoughts are "another sensible post turned into a battle field by the usual gang, and no positive outcome"undecided

Tinwheeler replied on 06/03/2019 11:34

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:22 by Rufs

my thoughts are "another sensible post turned into a battle field by the usual gang, and no positive outcome"undecided

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:34

I wasn’t actually asking you, Rufs, but please tell me what you feel is sensible about the club using the money you have put into its coffers to provide a chain of nightstops across the country from which you will be barred as you are not a motorhomer?

Incidentally, terms such as ‘usual gang’ (whoever they are) are deemed to be name calling and in breach of the guidelines. 

Tinwheeler replied on 06/03/2019 11:42

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:19 by Cornersteady

brilliant idea, 

hang on you mean keep things the way they are now?

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replied on 06/03/2019 11:46

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:19 by Cornersteady

brilliant idea, 

hang on you mean keep things the way they are now?

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:46

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Cornersteady replied on 06/03/2019 11:55

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:46 by

Well done.  You have just proven that you really don't understand the different needs and wants of most caravanners and motorhomers.  Now rather than asking me to explain do your own [unbiased] research.

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:55

but I do DD, yes of course both may have different wants and needs. But what you fail to understand is that the CAMC is just that, there is more than a hint in the title, especially the and part. It includes both caravans and MHs. It caters for both but more importantly for every (this is the part you fail to understand or you are winding people up as you often claim happily to do) member without fail. Money from all is spent for all. 

At present all pitches take caravans and MHs, no one is excluded. 

MHs may want different things but it is simply selfish to expect that the needs of one is more important than the other. 

Once again, this is how the club operates. If you feel they do not cater for your needs then go elsewhere or start your own club?

Rufs replied on 06/03/2019 12:00

Posted on 06/03/2019 12:00

I wasn’t actually asking you, Rufs,

as a paid up member, I do not need your permission to reply to a post.

but please tell me what you feel is sensible about the club using the money you have put into its coffers to provide a chain of nightstops across the country from which you will be barred as you are not a motorhomer?

am certainly not advocating this, my position on this briefly is, all club sites should stay as is, when it comes to charging for pitches, so whoever rocks up at a site in whatever, if a pitch is £15 everybody pays £15. If you have purchased a very expensive MH/caravan and dont need the facilities, sorry, they are provided if you dont want to use them dont use them, your choice.

Ok to provide dumping grounds for waste water or whatever, this is sensible, perhaps we wont see Mh's leaving site with water pouring out of the waste pipe.

As for providing a chain of nightstops, no way, in my opinion this would take revenue away from the club by reducing occupancy rates and would require a very large amount of new investment, money which could be spent on improving existing sites. Why build something you maybe  charge £5/£10 per night when you have existing at £15+ per night.

replied on 06/03/2019 12:01

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:03 by young thomas

sorry, been driving this morning....just arrived at the beautiful aire overlooking Gib harbour....

only 3m one side and perhaps 2m the other but a fine location...not for you, or Corners or Tinny or Easy.....shame as its lovely.

...oh, and BTW, I don't jump when you ring the bell....not in class nowwink

 

Posted on 06/03/2019 12:01

Maybe not for me as a habitation BB but as long as you are happy and don't expect the CC to spend on pitches with below their requirements for spacing I am happy too.

replied on 06/03/2019 12:07

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moulesy replied on 06/03/2019 12:07

Posted on 06/03/2019 11:03 by young thomas

sorry, been driving this morning....just arrived at the beautiful aire overlooking Gib harbour....

only 3m one side and perhaps 2m the other but a fine location...not for you, or Corners or Tinny or Easy.....shame as its lovely.

...oh, and BTW, I don't jump when you ring the bell....not in class nowwink

 

Posted on 06/03/2019 12:07

Bells are used in primary schools, BB - they were done away with in the secondary schools I worked in a good 25 years ago! Mind you, given the way this thread has gone a bell might be very useful now. wink

Still I would be interested in your answers to my questions which were a genuine attempt to understand your point of view more. But given your apparent liking for the Michael Howard approach to answering awkward questions, I won't be holding my breath! undecided

moulesy replied on 06/03/2019 12:09

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Posted on 06/03/2019 12:09

In what way is the CAMC not providing "equal provision" for caravanneras and MHers, DD? undecided

 

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