So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 02/03/2019 17:18

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:00 by

Plus 1 10/10 😉.

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:18

"CAMC has now got lots of motorhomers as members…"

But not you. 😐

Oneputt replied on 02/03/2019 17:37

Posted on 02/03/2019 14:42 by StuartO

Members who have never toured abroad will have had no experience of  Aires de Camping Car, as the French call them, but take it from me there are a huge number of them and they are very popular.  Likewise caravanners (“tuggers”) will not have had the experience either because trailer caravans are not allowed to use them.  There are relatively few in UK and this is at leats partly due to the negative influence of caravan site proprietors who don’t want what they see as competition (including perhaps CAMC) and local authorities who don’t see any value in the idea and worry about Travellers.

CAMC has developed many services which only small sections of Members use so I reject the idea that nothing can be developed which doesn’t serve the trailer caravanners among Members is blinkered and selfish.  CAMC has now got lots of motorhomers as members and it’s about time the Club faced up to serving them properly as well.

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:37

You conveniently mention France whereas in Germany there are Stelplatz that accept both caravans and MH

replied on 02/03/2019 17:52

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:37 by Oneputt

You conveniently mention France whereas in Germany there are Stelplatz that accept both caravans and MH

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:52

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cyberyacht replied on 02/03/2019 17:56

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:56

Many municipals in France have either converted to Aires or done a mixture of sites with Fire attached.

In answer to DK's observation that no one, as far as I am aware, has started such a project as a commercial enterprise, There is https://campingcarpark.com/en/ which is a  French chain of Aires.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 02/03/2019 18:01

Posted on 02/03/2019 18:01

‘So what did the club ever do for Motorcaravanners?’

they changed the name for you to make you feel all warm & fuzzy inside. You are now officially equal👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊

replied on 02/03/2019 18:13

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:56 by cyberyacht

Many municipals in France have either converted to Aires or done a mixture of sites with Fire attached.

In answer to DK's observation that no one, as far as I am aware, has started such a project as a commercial enterprise, There is https://campingcarpark.com/en/ which is a  French chain of Aires.

Posted on 02/03/2019 18:13

I think DK was referring to UK

huskydog replied on 02/03/2019 18:46

Posted on 02/03/2019 18:01 by Rocky 2 buckets

‘So what did the club ever do for Motorcaravanners?’

they changed the name for you to make you feel all warm & fuzzy inside. You are now officially equal👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊

Posted on 02/03/2019 18:46

I'm Fuzzy on the outside cool

compass362 replied on 02/03/2019 19:31

Posted on 02/03/2019 13:00 by Tinwheeler

I have a sense of déjà vu…

Stuart, you are forgetting one thing - this is the Caravan and Motorhome Club. What you suggest would be great for a motorhome club to provide but you are proposing to use this club's funds to create a whole raft of sites just for motorhomers and you would exclude the majority of members - caravanners - from these motorhome nightstops. 

Let's not even get into the nuts and bolts of land acquisition, funds, need etc etc but, whether there is a genuine need for these 'aires' in this country or not, your proposal plainly isn’t fair to the majority of members. 

 

Posted on 02/03/2019 19:31

The OP is either a visionary or a dreamer . 😇

My guess ......dreamer .😘

young thomas replied on 02/03/2019 19:36

Posted on 02/03/2019 16:57 by

Not just pubs. Britstops may be the scheme you have in mind; the list includes farm shops, craft centres, vineyards and so on, as well as pubs.

Another scheme which uses pubs only is motorhomestopover.

Both these are based on subscriptions. There are also some free listings on-line - a google search will locate them.

 

Posted on 02/03/2019 19:36

yes, there's a hint of France Passion in the Britstops concept...smile

nelliethehooker replied on 02/03/2019 19:53

Posted on 02/03/2019 17:18 by Tinwheeler

"CAMC has now got lots of motorhomers as members…"

But not you. 😐

Posted on 02/03/2019 19:53

Agree with you there, TW. Yet another non-member with a big spoon.

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