So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 05/03/2019 17:19

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:06 by DavidKlyne

Chester Fairoaks now has an open grid for waste water and two covered drains for Black Waste, clearly marked. Unfortunately the picture is a bit small but if you right click and open in its own window you can see it more clearly.

David

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:19

That’s the set up I was talking about earlier. I saw several puzzled MH-ers trying to work out what was what and one who eventually discharged his grey waste into the narrow gridded gutter running alongside the grass. 

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2019 17:31

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:06 by DavidKlyne

Chester Fairoaks now has an open grid for waste water and two covered drains for Black Waste, clearly marked. Unfortunately the picture is a bit small but if you right click and open in its own window you can see it more clearly.

David

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:31

And the covered drains as noted were still being "lifted "by motor caravans ,as noted last year at Hawes, although the latest drive over grate was just in front of them,but my post was about black waste being dumped in the grated area

 

ABM replied on 05/03/2019 17:32

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:32

Perhaps the Wardens could { Urgently } request the Club has  "ONLY "  inserted 'tween the  Black  dumps  &   " Grey  Water  HERE " painted  alongside   the  open  grid.

Any  body  misusing  the  place  then  should  be  reported,  swiftly,  to  the  local  Constabulary  .

replied on 05/03/2019 17:33

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:06 by young thomas

I think you'll find HE suggested any such changes would be for the benefit of all members....wink

 

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:33

Indeed and why would anybody think otherwise? 

However in your haste to be altruistic you seemed not to have realised that very few, if any, caravanners would be likely to habitually relish accommodation cheek by jowl in a car park and certainly not to leave them parked there whilst they go off in the tow vehicle.

I think that, like Baldrick, your 'cunning plan' needs a tad more refining

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2019 17:36

Posted on 05/03/2019 15:57 by

Properly designed and installed dump points would not need modifying.  

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:36

And where have you seen any of that type which take both?undecided

Tinwheeler replied on 05/03/2019 17:44

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:32 by ABM

Perhaps the Wardens could { Urgently } request the Club has  "ONLY "  inserted 'tween the  Black  dumps  &   " Grey  Water  HERE " painted  alongside   the  open  grid.

Any  body  misusing  the  place  then  should  be  reported,  swiftly,  to  the  local  Constabulary  .

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:44

You can’t legislate for the hard of understanding, Brian. 😁

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2019 17:45

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:32 by ABM

Perhaps the Wardens could { Urgently } request the Club has  "ONLY "  inserted 'tween the  Black  dumps  &   " Grey  Water  HERE " painted  alongside   the  open  grid.

Any  body  misusing  the  place  then  should  be  reported,  swiftly,  to  the  local  Constabulary  .

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:45

With some members your post and idea is so much neededwink

replied on 05/03/2019 17:46

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:44 by Tinwheeler

You can’t legislate for the hard of understanding, Brian. 😁

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:46

The courts would doubtless be full if you did!

replied on 05/03/2019 17:46

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:36 by JVB66

And where have you seen any of that type which take both?undecided

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young thomas replied on 05/03/2019 17:53

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:33 by

Indeed and why would anybody think otherwise? 

However in your haste to be altruistic you seemed not to have realised that very few, if any, caravanners would be likely to habitually relish accommodation cheek by jowl in a car park and certainly not to leave them parked there whilst they go off in the tow vehicle.

I think that, like Baldrick, your 'cunning plan' needs a tad more refining

Posted on 05/03/2019 17:53

but this is the whole point.......

the thread is about what could be done for MHers..so we get the usual suggestions about what improvements MH owners would like to sit alongside their (sometimes) different touring habits...

this is immediately followed by squeals from caravan owners who say these improvements can't be for MHers alone...

back comes the ball with a clarification that caravanners would be welcome to use and be part of these changes...

...oh, here it comes (yet again)....but caravanners don't want to be part of any such changes....

at some point, there will be a change made to a site (or sites) that some of us don't make use of, but we can't go round squealing everytime (say) a new or upgraded playground is completed etc..

the whole reason for the OP is that the membership demographic is changing and the increasing MH membership does have (sometimes slightly, sometimes not) differing requirements.

as Stuart said earlier....it was the club that decided to make a big (and expensive) thing about being more inclusive as a result of the rise in MH membership..

having kicked off the idea, members are only putting forward their views as to how these needs could be met.

however, the club, still being the caravan club, should have know that the caravanners, who see nothing in this for them, are (will be) revoltingwink

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