So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

DavidKlyne replied on 04/03/2019 20:26

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:51 by

The Club already have Baltic Wharf which is almost a motorhome aire 

Obviously not at Aire prices David. Minimum separation distances and in demand from caravanners and motorhomers as is Rowntree. No interest in either personally

Posted on 04/03/2019 20:26

Alan

I don't disagree and I think that is one of the flaws in the OP's suggestion. Land close to city and town centres will be expensive and for those that think, even if the Club did go down the route suggested, that they would have overnight parking for under a tenner might well be very disappointed? 

David

young thomas replied on 05/03/2019 07:09

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:09

I don't see the club providing 'new' Aires or similar, for the reasons described...primarily land cost..

however, I do think that, with a little radical thinking and, of course, the desire to complement changing service requirements from the shift towards MH ownership and touring patterns, it may well be possible to make (fairly inexpensive) alterations to existing sites, to make use of carparks/LNAs together or separately to provide the sort of fast turnaround, minimum facs pitches being mentioned.

if this were combined with a modernisation of the current barrier system with a move to ANPR it might make pre booked check in a bit smoother, anything to reduce queuing close to 'arrival time' would be good.

replied on 05/03/2019 07:32

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:32

it may well be possible to make (fairly inexpensive) alterations to existing sites, to make use of carparks

I take it your joking

peedee replied on 05/03/2019 07:41

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:41

Land costs should not be a barrier. The Club does not have to buy the land it could work in partnership with the land owner? Have a look around your town, I bet you can spot some underused land somewhere or a corner that could be given over to motorhome parking.

peedee

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/03/2019 07:44

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:32 by

it may well be possible to make (fairly inexpensive) alterations to existing sites, to make use of carparks

I take it your joking

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:44

Speaking as a neutral I reckon on a ‘cost effective’ basis it must be almost impossible☹️

peedee replied on 05/03/2019 07:49

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:44 by Rocky 2 buckets

Speaking as a neutral I reckon on a ‘cost effective’ basis it must be almost impossible☹️

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:49

Surely that would depend on location and the price charged. I don't see it as impossible in tourist areas. I'd happily pay CL prices and possibly a bit more for the right location.

peedee

replied on 05/03/2019 07:52

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:44 by Rocky 2 buckets

Speaking as a neutral I reckon on a ‘cost effective’ basis it must be almost impossible☹️

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:52

Don't Club Motorhome address this niche requirement? 

peedee replied on 05/03/2019 07:58

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:58

I think you mean Motorhome Club. I view them as a fairly amateur organisation largely run by volunteers. They do have a system of “Safe Knights” using members land and CLs but I have no idea if they have investigated establishing Aires. I doubt they have the resources to do so.

peedee

JollyKernow replied on 05/03/2019 08:15

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:09 by young thomas

I don't see the club providing 'new' Aires or similar, for the reasons described...primarily land cost..

however, I do think that, with a little radical thinking and, of course, the desire to complement changing service requirements from the shift towards MH ownership and touring patterns, it may well be possible to make (fairly inexpensive) alterations to existing sites, to make use of carparks/LNAs together or separately to provide the sort of fast turnaround, minimum facs pitches being mentioned.

if this were combined with a modernisation of the current barrier system with a move to ANPR it might make pre booked check in a bit smoother, anything to reduce queuing close to 'arrival time' would be good.

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:15

Morning

You've not been having a sneaky chat with JVB have you BB? Insider info and all that!!

Most club site staff start back to work this weekend so there's bound to be someone more knowledgeable than I to comment. I think I mentione earlier about our input?wink

JK

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