So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/03/2019 08:18

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:49 by peedee

Surely that would depend on location and the price charged. I don't see it as impossible in tourist areas. I'd happily pay CL prices and possibly a bit more for the right location.

peedee

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:18

I was thinking along the lines of the ‘car park’ scenarios I’ve seen posted PD, laying a concrete apron to accommodate moho’s won’t come cheap particularly so if the charges are expected to be around £5.

peedee replied on 05/03/2019 08:28

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:28

I think it is a misconception to think that an aire would be that cheap in this country. Like I said I and I am sure many others would be prepared to pay much more for the right locations. If car parks can be justified and profitable, why not a motorhome aire?

peedee

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2019 08:35

Posted on 05/03/2019 07:41 by peedee

Land costs should not be a barrier. The Club does not have to buy the land it could work in partnership with the land owner? Have a look around your town, I bet you can spot some underused land somewhere or a corner that could be given over to motorhome parking.

peedee

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:35

There are several in this area ,but they have been now "fortified" to stop another type of "tourist"

peedee replied on 05/03/2019 08:42

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:42

At some expense no doubt and for no return. Better to fortify it for use and a return.

peedee

JayOutdoors replied on 05/03/2019 08:49

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:49

Interesting post by Jollykernow recently regarding the poor take up of  non EHU on club sites. 

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2019 09:08

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:42 by peedee

At some expense no doubt and for no return. Better to fortify it for use and a return.

peedee

Posted on 05/03/2019 09:08

Steep mud bankswink

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/03/2019 09:16

Posted on 05/03/2019 08:28 by peedee

I think it is a misconception to think that an aire would be that cheap in this country. Like I said I and I am sure many others would be prepared to pay much more for the right locations. If car parks can be justified and profitable, why not a motorhome aire?

peedee

Posted on 05/03/2019 09:16

From what I’ve read on forums I think the majority of aires users have come to expect low costs. I would expect a costly ‘car park’ to be ignored. I for one would never invest in such a gamble & i’d expect councils to think the same, particularly so if they’re seeking an enterprise partner☹️

peedee replied on 05/03/2019 09:19

Posted on 05/03/2019 09:19

Lower costs than sites I agree but not low low costs after all the facilities needed are minimal.

peedee

mickysf replied on 05/03/2019 09:23

Posted on 05/03/2019 09:23

Personally I feel the club is motorhome friendly and is moving forward with our needs. We can book just that one night or 21 consecutive nights on all club sites, this network approach/view by the club is a real bonus for many of us.  The slow but sure introduction of MH service points is also helpful for some but not essential for others. Currently good health and mobility means we can use ordinary service point without hassle. Personally this is enough for us and the provision of aire type stops should possibly be left to other providers. Just a thought!

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2019 09:29

Posted on 05/03/2019 09:29

In the UK it seems, that there is a mindset that the orange lead is vital even on LNAs if EHU is there it is used,so any aire unless a maximum stay of say two nights will all require water,waste(must be large drive overwink)  toilet emptying and EHU which would not be "cheap" to set up or usesurprised and unless there is a very strong security then there will be "problems"

And even sites with Barriers are it seem now getting more "problems" with some "arrivals"as noted on our second home where add barriers have had to be installed (losing the LNA) and outside security staff when the other "tourists" have been moved on from where they last moved insurprised

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