So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

DavidKlyne replied on 04/03/2019 14:28

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:28

I am not sure where the OP thinks the Club would find all these parcels of land that would be suitable for motorhome aires? By their very nature they would have to be near town centres, and even if a little further out they would need good transport links. That means the land would be expensive and also have to compete with other uses that the local authority might decide would take priority.The Club already have Baltic Wharf which is almost a motorhome aire but the local council are doing their best to build on the site!!! I still maintain that the best involvement from the Club would be to encourage local authorities to provide these facilities, probably in existing car parks.

David

JVB66 replied on 04/03/2019 14:34

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:28 by DavidKlyne

I am not sure where the OP thinks the Club would find all these parcels of land that would be suitable for motorhome aires? By their very nature they would have to be near town centres, and even if a little further out they would need good transport links. That means the land would be expensive and also have to compete with other uses that the local authority might decide would take priority.The Club already have Baltic Wharf which is almost a motorhome aire but the local council are doing their best to build on the site!!! I still maintain that the best involvement from the Club would be to encourage local authorities to provide these facilities, probably in existing car parks.

David

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:34

+1  and probably many moresurprised

moulesy replied on 04/03/2019 14:36

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:36

Agreed David - thinking of some of the alternatives already mentioned,  a large Lidl supermarket has just opened up on the outskirts of our town. As we drove past today we remarked that the parking spaces looked far more generous than at our nearby Sainsburys. So maybe the opportunity is there if only someone - anyone - who is keen for these facilities to be provided would make the effort to lobby for them! smile

replied on 04/03/2019 14:51

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:51

The Club already have Baltic Wharf which is almost a motorhome aire 

Obviously not at Aire prices David. Minimum separation distances and in demand from caravanners and motorhomers as is Rowntree. No interest in either personally

replied on 04/03/2019 14:59

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:36 by moulesy

Agreed David - thinking of some of the alternatives already mentioned,  a large Lidl supermarket has just opened up on the outskirts of our town. As we drove past today we remarked that the parking spaces looked far more generous than at our nearby Sainsburys. So maybe the opportunity is there if only someone - anyone - who is keen for these facilities to be provided would make the effort to lobby for them! smile

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Cornersteady replied on 04/03/2019 15:33

Posted on 04/03/2019 14:59 by

There have been quite a number of on-line petitions over the last few years lobbying for Aires. Some called for the Government to force local councils into making provisions - as if there'd be any chance of that when front line services are being cut. (I have never signed one on those grounds alone.) All have failed; maybe because of the wording of unrealistic demands????

If there is to be any change at all it's possible that it will come from the growing number of pubs / craft centres /  farm shops and the like whose owners welcome motorhomers for overnight stays, as, presumably they see an advantage; from councils who perhaps may evaluate what other councils have done in that respect and  follow suit; and perhaps supermarkets, especially if they have branches in Europe and they see some benefit from a provision.

Posted on 04/03/2019 15:33

I just wonder what would happen if they (MHs) didn't leave the next morning?

Cornersteady replied on 04/03/2019 15:39

Posted on 04/03/2019 08:27 by young thomas

"... for those who mended shoes for living wink....."

godness me, Corners, you certainly talk a load of cobblers......undecided

Posted on 04/03/2019 15:39

no need to be rude BB though easier, why not state your case if you think my post is incorrect?undecided

moulesy replied on 04/03/2019 15:41

Posted on 04/03/2019 15:41

"There have been quite a number of on-line petitions over the last few years lobbying for Aires. ....

....All have failed; maybe because of the wording of unrealistic demands????"

 

Or possibly because there is actually insufficient demand/interest for that facility in this country? (Just a thought!)

JVB66 replied on 04/03/2019 15:41

Posted on 04/03/2019 15:41

There has been a quite new 66reg M/C with two adults staying in our local shopping parade car park for over a weeksurprised 

Rufs replied on 04/03/2019 15:51

Posted on 04/03/2019 15:33 by Cornersteady

I just wonder what would happen if they (MHs) didn't leave the next morning?

Posted on 04/03/2019 15:51

and that is a big problem, our 2 LC's Gosport and Fareham who control most of the seafront from Portsmouth to Warsash are actively discouraging MH's by installing height barriers, and banning habitation in car parks, where there are provision for high vehicles habitation is not permitted, but we still have a few persistant offenders who park on the seafront which is free, have diesel generators running on the pavement and hose down the drain. There is a local by-law that again bans habitation on the seafront but somebody has to police this ditto with the car parks and this would need financing, £5 per night, i dont think so. I think if regulations were relaxed we would see a big influx of MH's staying for much longer than 1/2 nights.

I am sure for the likes of pubs, they are hoping that the bar takings will improve, bet they will not be so keen if said MH's have a picnic evening meal and drink their own drink

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