So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 03/03/2019 19:52

Posted on 03/03/2019 19:36 by young thomas

Canterbury is just an example, not every town has a campsite as close as many would like, hence the convenience of Aires...

its obvious you don't 'get' the system, but thousands do and make good use of them, many wishing a similar facility was available at home.

no one would ever wish and Aire on you, or you on an Aire but don't belittle a terrific system just because you're not interested.

Posted on 03/03/2019 19:52

I’ve not belittled it, BB, ever. It’s simply not for me. As ever, I accept we like different things and have different standards. I never put down another's choice. 👍🏻

 

SteveL replied on 03/03/2019 20:03

Posted on 03/03/2019 19:36 by young thomas

Canterbury is just an example, not every town has a campsite as close as many would like, hence the convenience of Aires...

its obvious you don't 'get' the system, but thousands do and make good use of them, many wishing a similar facility was available at home.

no one would ever wish and Aire on you, or you on an Aire but don't belittle a terrific system just because you're not interested.

Posted on 03/03/2019 20:03

Quite like the idea of Aires BB. However I would not be particularly keen on the Canterbury model, or a Lidel car park. Something like the German one OP posted a picture for, or the  Campingcar one I was looking at. Priced at between 12 and 16€ a night, with a sensible amount of space, we will certainly give a go.

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Posted on 03/03/2019 19:45 by young thomas

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yes, I speak manywink

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SteveL replied on 03/03/2019 20:13

Posted on 03/03/2019 19:36 by young thomas

Canterbury is just an example, not every town has a campsite as close as many would like, hence the convenience of Aires...

its obvious you don't 'get' the system, but thousands do and make good use of them, many wishing a similar facility was available at home.

no one would ever wish and Aire on you, or you on an Aire but don't belittle a terrific system just because you're not interested.

Posted on 03/03/2019 20:13

We like the idea of Aires BB. However, the Canterbury model,or a Lidel (insert other supermarket) car park, holds little attraction. The German Aire in OP 's photo or the Campingcar  ones I have been looking at online, which have significantly more space, are much more attractive. OK this comes at a cost of 12 /16€ but at least you can't shake hands with your neighbour out the windows.😂

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Posted on 03/03/2019 20:03 by SteveL

Quite like the idea of Aires BB. However I would not be particularly keen on the Canterbury model, or a Lidel car park. Something like the German one OP posted a picture for, or the  Campingcar one I was looking at. Priced at between 12 and 16€ a night, with a sensible amount of space, we will certainly give a go.

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Navigateur replied on 03/03/2019 20:25

Posted on 03/03/2019 20:25

Many, perhaps even most, supermarket car parks are not owned by the supermarket they serve, but the landlord of the buildings.

However, as supermarkets and other large high street businesses close there could be a lot of space available.  In fact, as out-of-town malls also close there could be a lot of big sheds available.  Anyone for indoor aires?

Cornersteady replied on 03/03/2019 20:55

Posted on 03/03/2019 20:55

well I've just managed to catch up but it took a while as I kept getting a server error.

A few things come to mind.

Those that use club sites the least want the most changes, some sort of inverse square law. Even better are those who won't even join yet want changes but then say they probably wouldn't even join then.

Certain motor homers want something for very little, and even better want that paid for by a club which is not all for motorhomers.

If motorhomers don't feel that the club caters for them then find sites that do, (I would say the same to caravaners btw) but I don't think there are such sites in the UK, and club sites and members are full of each .

while the server errors were going on I watched a video by Baldy catz who was talking about wave particle duality, for those who mended shoes for living wink that is how light can be either a wave or particles. Neither one attracts a majority, both hotly discussed, but light works just as well with either.  A bit like the club for motorhomes and caravaners?

 

Cornersteady replied on 03/03/2019 21:05

Posted on 03/03/2019 21:00 by Tinwheeler

Good post, Corners. It sums things up well. 👍🏻

 

Leun a sylli yw ow skath bargesi

Posted on 03/03/2019 21:05

that would make for a rough crossing, good title for a film though, better than snakes on a plane

Nyns yw unn yeth lowr

JayOutdoors replied on 03/03/2019 21:19

Posted on 03/03/2019 20:55 by Cornersteady

well I've just managed to catch up but it took a while as I kept getting a server error.

A few things come to mind.

Those that use club sites the least want the most changes, some sort of inverse square law. Even better are those who won't even join yet want changes but then say they probably wouldn't even join then.

Certain motor homers want something for very little, and even better want that paid for by a club which is not all for motorhomers.

If motorhomers don't feel that the club caters for them then find sites that do, (I would say the same to caravaners btw) but I don't think there are such sites in the UK, and club sites and members are full of each .

while the server errors were going on I watched a video by Baldy catz who was talking about wave particle duality, for those who mended shoes for living wink that is how light can be either a wave or particles. Neither one attracts a majority, both hotly discussed, but light works just as well with either.  A bit like the club for motorhomes and caravaners?

 

Posted on 03/03/2019 21:19

Just caught  up also - not read every page  but agree with your summary.  Also got server error a few times just now.

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