So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

JVB66 replied on 03/03/2019 17:55

Posted on 03/03/2019 17:52 by young thomas

here's one of the largest commercial organisations more than matching it (providing thousands of free spaces all over Europe) and is exactly the type of stopover facility that has been suggested many times by some MHers on CT as the perfect way to combine their type of touring with a fair price....no EHU reqd...

yes they'll be far too close for CC regs but often 3 or 4 vans have the whole carpark to themselves.

perhaps, out of hours (7 pm to 10 am?) the visitors car parks could be spaced a bit better and turned over to fast turnaround MH (or caravan) one nighters for a sensible fee....£10 ish?

Posted on 03/03/2019 17:55

And this organisation is?

StuartO replied on 03/03/2019 17:59

Posted on 03/03/2019 17:59

I don’t where the idea that caravanners were being asked to subsidise (or even to approve) a proposal that would primarily benefit motorhomers came from because my thinking was always that there would need to be a business plan and the new Nightstops would have to pay their way, even if some initial investment was required.  I’m simply pointing out that there is a potentially worthwhile (and profitable) opportunity for development and I hope that the Club’s Director of Development (or whatever her or she is called) is taking a businesslike look at it, just as they should always be looking to the future.  Nothing ever stays the same in business and if the Club doesn’t plan for the future it would, sooner or later, be doomed.  

The Club is a Membership organisation and it is shamefully bad at keeping Members informed about future plans - the decision to change the Club name being an example of something which was simply dropped on Members out of the blue and delivered as a fait accompli when it should have been the subject of consultation and perhaps even a vote.  I can understand the inclination to avoid the sort of fuss which some Members would have made if there had been a consultation but that is no excuse for running the Club like a secretive self-perpetuating oligarchy, which is what actually happens. 

There may well be some plans which are commercially sensitive and need to be kept under wraps but the general approach should be openness and honesty with the Membership, including discussion of strategic planning.

young thomas replied on 03/03/2019 18:00

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:35 by Tinwheeler

I thought it was a storage site when I first saw the pic.

£3.50 p/n? Strewth, they’d need to pay me a lot more than that before I’d spend the night there!😫

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:00

thank goodness for thatwink

more space for the rest of us who value the efforts made by any organisation to provide such scarce city facilities...

well done Canterburysmile

replied on 03/03/2019 18:02

Posted on 03/03/2019 17:13 by

Properly designed and installed MH service points and access to the them when passing, for a reasonable fee of course.

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:02

I cannot see that the CC supplying this service, most likely to be of use to wild campers who may well not wish to pay sufficiently to warrant the provision, to be of interest to the club or to the majority of members,

replied on 03/03/2019 18:07

Posted on 03/03/2019 17:52 by young thomas

here's one of the largest commercial organisations more than matching it (providing thousands of free spaces all over Europe) and is exactly the type of stopover facility that has been suggested many times by some MHers on CT as the perfect way to combine their type of touring with a fair price....no EHU reqd...

yes they'll be far too close for CC regs but often 3 or 4 vans have the whole carpark to themselves.

perhaps, out of hours (7 pm to 10 am?) the visitors car parks could be spaced a bit better and turned over to fast turnaround MH (or caravan) one nighters for a sensible fee....£10 ish?

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:07

And where might that be for £3.50 a night and free transport to town and back. Forget the transport. Is this another unspecified site BB?

young thomas replied on 03/03/2019 18:14

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:14

.....but if the club took the trouble to look at many of the French sites, it would see that just one site can cater for both (all) types of requirement.

a full fat campsite with an aire section on the front with smaller, less 'landscaped' pitches....I've posted a picture before of a site nr Angoulême that we've stayed at a few years back...on the aire for €6-7 a night but the posher site pitches, with water etc, were around €18 ACSI rate.

ALL customers were welcome to use ALL facilities (pool, bar, showers, restaurant, etc) and neither group gave a hoot about what the other paid or what they got for their money...

there was even a third group who didn't stay at the site at all, but made use of the waste/water services for about €3....again, no one interested in the slightest...

everyone happy.....just can't seem the same non interest in each other group in the uk.....far too 'interested" in 'how much'....

young thomas replied on 03/03/2019 18:23

Posted on 03/03/2019 14:27 by Tinwheeler

It wasn't 'understood' by me either. It’s reminiscent of the chase and pointless in another thread which was clear to me but not, you said, to you. 

We can all be guilty of assuming the other person is party to our thoughts. 

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:23

well, I must have had the same teacher as WTG.....wink

it was perfectly clear to me that it was being expressed that, after 'but I' the next clause referred to the same person......

of course I don't speak Cornishundecided

replied on 03/03/2019 18:33

Posted on 03/03/2019 17:52 by young thomas

here's one of the largest commercial organisations more than matching it (providing thousands of free spaces all over Europe) and is exactly the type of stopover facility that has been suggested many times by some MHers on CT as the perfect way to combine their type of touring with a fair price....no EHU reqd...

yes they'll be far too close for CC regs but often 3 or 4 vans have the whole carpark to themselves.

perhaps, out of hours (7 pm to 10 am?) the visitors car parks could be spaced a bit better and turned over to fast turnaround MH (or caravan) one nighters for a sensible fee....£10 ish?

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:33

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Tinwheeler replied on 03/03/2019 18:37

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:23 by young thomas

well, I must have had the same teacher as WTG.....wink

it was perfectly clear to me that it was being expressed that, after 'but I' the next clause referred to the same person......

of course I don't speak Cornishundecided

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:37

Maybe not but you speak a lot of things, BB. wink

Nyns yw unn yeth lowr

replied on 03/03/2019 18:42

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:23 by young thomas

well, I must have had the same teacher as WTG.....wink

it was perfectly clear to me that it was being expressed that, after 'but I' the next clause referred to the same person......

of course I don't speak Cornishundecided

Posted on 03/03/2019 18:42

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