What is our membership fee for?

IanH replied on 02/05/2016 09:16

Posted on 02/05/2016 09:16

There have been a number of threads running about the cost of Club sites and the fact that they seem to struggle to offer prices as low as commercial sites, particularly out of season.

I would have thought that, being a 'member' would confer some sort of discount.....but it appears not.

So what does our membership fee actually cover?

Given that there are about 400,000 memberships the fee must bring in close to £20 million!

If we don't see a reduction in site fees compared to other, similar sites, what do we actually get?

(Yes, I know we don't have to pay a non-member fee on sites, but that's just extra to a allready high price and is just there to push non-members into joining).

I assume (hope!) that when the CC sets up a department to sell insurance, european holidays etc that they are required to cover their own costs and show a profit and not be subsidised by members' fees?

Are we paying for a bloated Head office set up, perhaps?

Surfer replied on 03/05/2016 08:45

Posted on 03/05/2016 08:45

It may be a minor point  but the club (and the other one) does speak out for caravaners and MHers on national level, there's the approved service workshops for one, and they did bring to our attention, and helped opposed and changed (IMHO) the planned introduction of caravan MOT by the EU (no political statement implied). Without the two major clubs who would speak out of our behalf?

There is also the help and technical section.

Can you please give any examples of the club speaking out for its members as it seems shoddy caravans are still being produced.  BTW the CC cannot take credit for the MOT for caravans not being introduced as that was a governmental decision and done before the club got involved.  Also I am sure that the club never introduced AWS workshops?

...Both clubs lobbyed the govenment against c/van mots as they did to introduce a workshop scheme

They may have done so after the government published a long paper on why the government would not be introducing a MOT, but they never initiated it.  

Due to the cost of implementing a MOT system for caravans, the government was never going to go ahead with the idea anyway and thsi was back in 2012.  

So no neither of the clubs helped very much and not sure why people believe this myth, but then as we have seen lately the CC spin doctors are excellent.

IanH replied on 03/05/2016 08:58

Posted on 03/05/2016 08:58

Neither of the clubs campaigned effectively about the problems with gas regulators blocking.

Neither of the clubs campaign to get a safe, easy to use spare wheel carrying method on caravans.

The CC ran an article 'exposing' the fact that some leisure batteries don't work......but wouldn't say which ones.

Neither of the clubs campaign to improve the build quality of caravan.....they simply extoll their virtues in pointless reviews.

There is an awful lot more that they could do for the money they receive.

PITCHTOCLOSE replied on 03/05/2016 15:58

Posted on 03/05/2016 15:58

We recently bought some stuff from cotswold outdoor shop, using our cc card we got 15% discount which nearly recouped the fee.

You get access to the CC network, advice, other discounts, magazine,  site network, travel service, insurance services, a body to lobby parliament on issues affecting our hobby.

Weather that is worth £48 a year I don't know and of course you may use none or all of the services offered but that's a choice you make but Ian if you are so against the club and everything it offers (or doesn't ) why join, if the grass is greener elsewhere move on.

I am not in any particular camp but can see the pros and cons of the club and choose to stay. We belong to the other club also and find their booking service and pricing for club sites atrocious, deposits cannot amend on line, hidden pricing but we choose to stay for other things.

Write your comments here...uncle tom cobley and all get 15% off

Lansdorf replied on 03/05/2016 19:30

Posted on 03/05/2016 19:30

So, my previous post provoked a few slightly caustic replies but still no one has come forth with a sensible solution. Many of you seem to know far more than I do about what the club is doing, or not doing (things I'm too old to worry about) so does anyone have any solutions? I'm not having a go at anyone here I'm asking a serious question.

 

Bakers2 replied on 03/05/2016 20:09

Posted on 03/05/2016 20:09

How much of the CC "surplus" goes into aquiring new sites, refurbishing existing sites? Quite a lot I would imagine


Or Surreptitiously trying to divest themselves of 3 popular sites!

I knew about Bristol and Broadway haven't heard of a third, which one is that?

It was Broadway, Minehead and Cadeside......these are all owned by the Club, not leased. All three (and there may be more that we haven't spotted) were put forward to the Local Authority planners for redevelopment for housing "because they no longer met the needs of the Club".

The Club put out a rather weak response saying that it was all a mistake by their agents and have, so far, declined to provide a full, proper explanation. See the 'Broadway Part2' thread under UK Sites

Thanks for coming back on that.  News to me

Cornersteady replied on 03/05/2016 20:32

Posted on 03/05/2016 20:32

So, my previous post provoked a few slightly caustic replies but still no one has come forth with a sensible solution. Many of you seem to know far more than I do about what the club is doing, or not doing (things I'm too old to worry about) so does anyone have any solutions? I'm not having a go at anyone here I'm asking a serious question.

 

Perhaps that while some may grumble (with some truth I would add) about the management of the club past the 'site level' most are happy with the end result which is the high standards found on club sites, well for me anyway

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Kennine replied on 08/05/2016 09:26

Posted on 08/05/2016 09:26

Neither of the clubs campaigned effectively about the problems with gas regulators blocking.

Neither of the clubs campaign to get a safe, easy to use spare wheel carrying method on caravans.

The CC ran an article 'exposing' the fact that some leisure batteries don't work......but wouldn't say which ones.

Neither of the clubs campaign to improve the build quality of caravan.....they simply extoll their virtues in pointless reviews.

There is an awful lot more that they could do for the money they receive.

Write your comments here...I fully agree !!!

Wildwood replied on 08/05/2016 21:41

Posted on 08/05/2016 21:41

Neither of the clubs campaigned effectively about the problems with gas regulators blocking.

Neither of the clubs campaign to get a safe, easy to use spare wheel carrying method on caravans.

The CC ran an article 'exposing' the fact that some leisure batteries don't work......but wouldn't say which ones.

Neither of the clubs campaign to improve the build quality of caravan.....they simply extoll their virtues in pointless reviews.

There is an awful lot more that they could do for the money they receive.

Write your comments here...I fully agree !!!

Probably the thing the members of both clubs would most like to see from these clubs. A service to deal with members problems that was effective would probably double membership overnight.

Boff replied on 11/05/2016 10:50

Posted on 11/05/2016 10:50

At the public meeting I attended earlier this year which the question of Broadway et al  was raised.   The following statement was made by I think Grenville Chamberlin

" The Caravan Club is not a campaigning  organisation"

So don't expect them to go into bat for you!

 

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