Should the Club put it's foot down?

willbee replied on 13/10/2019 14:38

Posted on 13/10/2019 14:38

It's good that over the last few years the Club has been moving towards being more aware of the needs of our planet and the care of it's environment. Certainly sites like Poolsbrook with eco aware facilities are to be aplauded. The Club rightly should encourage, even expect, it's members to play their part in cutting energy consumption, and think beyond "just me".

Is it then time for the Club to introduce a TOTAL ban on awning heaters on thie sites? No doubt some members will see this as an infringement of their rights. That right being, in this case, to completely ignore the consequences of using energy in what is basically an outdoor space.

And the rest of us can just shut up, stop whinge-ing on, and pay for their electricity wastage in our site fees.

At least some CL owners are aware of this, and have moved to banning awning heaters on their sites.

rayjsj replied on 14/10/2019 18:27

Posted on 13/10/2019 14:38 by willbee

It's good that over the last few years the Club has been moving towards being more aware of the needs of our planet and the care of it's environment. Certainly sites like Poolsbrook with eco aware facilities are to be aplauded. The Club rightly should encourage, even expect, it's members to play their part in cutting energy consumption, and think beyond "just me".

Is it then time for the Club to introduce a TOTAL ban on awning heaters on thie sites? No doubt some members will see this as an infringement of their rights. That right being, in this case, to completely ignore the consequences of using energy in what is basically an outdoor space.

And the rest of us can just shut up, stop whinge-ing on, and pay for their electricity wastage in our site fees.

At least some CL owners are aware of this, and have moved to banning awning heaters on their sites.

Posted on 14/10/2019 18:27

Answer in a Word : No.

replied on 14/10/2019 19:30

Posted on 14/10/2019 18:05 by Cornersteady

But I'd rather the club's money spent on an extra site, isn't that better than spending money on installing meters that cannot be recouped ever?

 

 

Posted on 14/10/2019 19:30

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JVB66 replied on 14/10/2019 20:03

Posted on 14/10/2019 14:55 by

I would trial one person doing loos and leave one in office,

As I said earlier I have usually been aware on site that there are either two staff in the reception or one in reception and one within earshot in the back office and wondered whether the CC risk assessment outlawed single manning? No idea.

Posted on 14/10/2019 20:03

Yes it does, if only one, it is their choice surprised

nelliethehooker replied on 14/10/2019 20:58

Posted on 14/10/2019 14:12 by

  This is how it is done on one commercial site in the UK.Where there is a will there is a way.

Never thought that there wasn't PD. Which site is that or are you not telling?

Presumably you leave with the credit back on your smart card which is useless until you revisit? Or can you have a cash refund? 

Posted on 14/10/2019 20:58

Fell End Caravan Site nr Silverdale had metered electric at least 15 yrs ago, so nothing new in this country.

replied on 14/10/2019 21:30

Posted on 14/10/2019 20:58 by nelliethehooker

Fell End Caravan Site nr Silverdale had metered electric at least 15 yrs ago, so nothing new in this country.

Posted on 14/10/2019 21:30

Not come across it myself though on sites

nelliethehooker replied on 14/10/2019 21:32

Posted on 14/10/2019 21:32

At least some CL owners are aware of this, and have moved to banning awning heaters on their sites.

And others have banned the charging of EVs too.

Oneputt replied on 14/10/2019 21:32

Posted on 14/10/2019 21:32

The real problem the club has is many of the current sites are leased and it can’t guarantee that, come the time, the lease will be renewed.  I’m guessing that because of that the acquisition of new sites becomes a priority.  Personally I believe its a better policy to maintain pitch numbers than to risk money on a capital project where a return can’t be guaranteed 

Takethedogalong replied on 14/10/2019 22:13

Posted on 14/10/2019 14:55 by

I would trial one person doing loos and leave one in office,

As I said earlier I have usually been aware on site that there are either two staff in the reception or one in reception and one within earshot in the back office and wondered whether the CC risk assessment outlawed single manning? No idea.

Posted on 14/10/2019 22:13

Sounds like Club have risk assessed single reception staffing and deemed it a two person task in the main. (That’s acknowledging JVB’s input) Without knowing criteria applied, hard to question. They are quite “open” reception areas, and we have witnessed less than nice behaviour towards staff, albeit very rare. But an example of how trying to think in terms of changing something isn’t as simple as it seems. 

 

 

mickysf replied on 15/10/2019 07:05

Posted on 15/10/2019 07:05

I would trial one person doing loos and leave one in office.

If only one does the loos then who does the showers? They work in pairs. Surely if only one then logic means the facilities will be shut for twice as long! No trial needed it is just common sense and basic maths.

young thomas replied on 15/10/2019 07:34

Posted on 15/10/2019 07:34

who would cut the grass?undecided

this is tail wagging the dog...the bare bones Club staffing model means multi tasking, and while it provides adaptability and versatility, its compromised by staff only being able to be in one place at any time.

at sites where electricity bills are prepped at anytime to allow folk to settle up (usually the night before) prior to leaving, there needs to be office staff available.

similarly with those ariving throughout the day, the staff cant be cleaning loos and checking folk in at the same time.

so the club model dictates what tasks can be done and when, in turn placing customers into convenient slots where the office is fully manned, arrival times etc...

whilst implementing a flexible 'pay for use' electric system to reduce overall costs is laudable (for several reasons) it is dead in the water if the staffing levels prevent its smooth administration.

...and this is one of the biggest (cultural) differences where ive seen this type of system work successfully....

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