Should the Club put it's foot down?

yes i see where you are coming from and this opens up a whole new can of worms not related to this post, but in the main, over there, office staff are office staff and not toilet cleaners as BB stated, so the office is normally open and staffed 0800 - 2000 hrs

Bolton Abbey ablutions block was lit up like a Christmas Tree all night last visit,

but why do the club not install motion sensors, not wishing to bang on about over there, but from what i have seen this is common practice as is solar panels for hot water, not as efficient in the UK for obvious reasons but doable.

guilty as charged, 3 days or more and the awning goes up, if we feel chilly on goes the small Halogen heater, nothing better than sitting in the awning with something that takes your fancy and a weathered scrabble board, after all the ethos of all of this is "camping" not curtain twitching or watching Corrie from within a centrally heated caravan/mh, and just think how much harder the internal fridge has to work if the inside temperature is 60 - 70 degs.

  This is how it is done on one commercial site in the UK.Where there is a will there is a way.

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  This is how it is done on one commercial site in the UK.Where there is a will there is a way.

Never thought that there wasn't PD. Which site is that or are you not telling?

Presumably you leave with the credit back on your smart card which is useless until you revisit? Or can you have a cash refund? 

If pitches are on a meter, will the plug be locked into the post? Don't want next door pitch to 'steal' my leccy while I'm out for the day .... 🙄

I agree about motion sensors. Our local park has motion sensors on lamps, on and off.

Staffing argument is a red herring. No matter what staff are doing, they require paying and are subject to whatever local terms and conditions of employment are relevant. It’s how you use the staff resources that count. Multi skilled staff are of far greater worth than single skill/chore staff at small isolated sites. It’s why some repairs get left for a long time awaiting something like “estates team” who might be only ones deemed qualified to fix a loo flush or replace a light bulb. Extreme examples, but not uncommon in some work places. I have no experience of overseas campsites, so cannot comment, but you are likely to be looking at a totally different model, and possibly quite different H&S and employment legislation. 

Staffing argument is a red herring. No matter what staff are doing, they require paying and are subject to whatever local terms and conditions of employment are relevant.

Not a red herring at all. Many sites offices are unmanned from 10am until 12pm. Doubtless staff on duty are doing other things such as toilet block or whatever. So that is around 15 hours a  week where staff are needed in the site office. Does CC H&S require that the office is double manned as whenever I go in the reception there is usually another of staff in earshot and so is that another 30 hours staff time required? No idea

Motion sensors make sense but the last site that I used - not CC- I got a bit fed up of waving my arm every 20 seconds 

Presumably you leave with the credit back on your smart card which is useless until you revisit? Or can you have a cash refund?

No, site i used in North Yorks last year had this arrangement, you simply rocked up at reception and they gave you in cash whatever credit was on the card, they do this by simply scanning through a reader.

I agree totally, that’s why I said it’s how staff resources are utilised. I would trial one person doing loos and leave one in office, but it all depends. Two hitting Ladies and Gents would half the time they are closed, which might be of more value to some Club members?

If it was me, I would switch to doing blocks in afternoon (after an initial check round first thing in morning to stock loo rolls and soap). Less folks on site, could get away with one person spending longer cleaning, leave other in office. Swop over to do other side. Not just loos to clean of course, Wardens keep many other areas clean and tidy. However, it might be that policy is to do outdoor work at certain times as well, such as grass cutting, other maintenance, I don’t know. 

Folks leave at all hours of the day, paying on leaving means staffing the office accordingly, unless payment can be done electronically. Both have cost implications.