Page 9 of the March mag - Events

Kennine replied on 25/02/2016 16:58

Posted on 25/02/2016 16:58

There is a table of events including QT ;  MtM  and AGM's   It is noted  that once again the nation of Scotland has been bypassed by the CC.

While England gets the interesting Question Time and Meet the Members ,  Scotland has been ignored and stuck with just an AGM.  That's no use to the Scottish CC membership as the AGM, (and I've been there, done that) is only of interest to the minority rallyists group.

Wales have at least a MtM which I am happy about.  

Perhaps Scotland is just a little far for the Grinstead staff to travel.

 I'm sure I am not the only Scot questioning the decision.

K Surprised

Firedragon replied on 26/02/2016 20:04

Posted on 26/02/2016 20:04

Like Dave I have attended quite a few Regional events, in fact that is how we first met Laughing. They are great for meeting those who do have some say in what happens but sadly that is not of interest to the majority of the membership and as has been said already, these events take a lot of organising and without members being willing to travel to them perhaps solo or like us often combining an overnight stay on a local site (at our own expense) it really is a pointless exercise. That is why a fair amount of effort also goes into advertising them, not only within centres but with dealers in the region and on sites with posters & leaflets.

Anyone who has ever visited Scotland appreciates the sheer logistics of organising an event like this is even bigger because of the area covered, however Scotland is divided up into areas for rallying and it is these areas that share the organisation of the Nationals along with the Divisional officers who include non-rallying volunteers as well just like the English Regions do and ALSO on page 9 of the march magazine, under the heading Have Your Say, it is explained that anyone can volunteer to help on the Divisional council as an independent member. 

I know all Regions and Divisions welcome independent members and indeed, need them to help make up their councils. You do not have to be a rallier or have anything to do with rallies to do this.

Alison

 

Kennine replied on 27/02/2016 09:08

Posted on 27/02/2016 09:08

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Its been interesting with some of the replies being very humerous. Some trying to be helpful and some using the "Shoot The Messenger Tactic".

As normal paying customers of any retail company we neither need to know the internal workings of their business decision making, be it by committee or staff or management .  

We pay our money and buy the goods and services on offer be it from the CC, Tesco's or Amazon.

The figures quoted in the op for the geographical locations of the events are the CC's figures and therefore should not be disputed.

It is of no consequence which areas are favoured and nobody is really going to care.  Being a discussion forum it is always good to discuss the articles in the monthly magazine. All good fun and always interesting to read others views on the published article.

K 

IainM1970 replied on 27/02/2016 09:35

Posted on 27/02/2016 09:35

There was one of the meetings at one of the hotels in Strathclyde Park a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I was tied up that day and could not go so do not know if it was well supported but if not that might be the problem.

It was well attended, rather dominated by centre members but not a major issue. I would be happy to support such an event again though would like to have had more chance to hear from the regional sites manager on subjects like underinvestment at Craigie and Balbirnie.

My gripe was the fact that there was too much banter between centre members and not enough time getting down to brass tacks.

My better half felt, and this is a personal opinion off course, though as a member one she is entitled to, that the back slapping and folks with their wee badges of office on was very off putting. As a life long user of the CC like myself she felt any new members who attended could have been put off thinking that this is all the CC is about ... We off course knew different!

vivien replied on 27/02/2016 09:37

Posted on 27/02/2016 09:37

Just one quick question Kennine, after much discussion etc here on the topic, are you going to pursue the possibility in volunteering within the CC so that once again the Scottish members can have question and answer events even c?  

Kennine replied on 27/02/2016 09:57

Posted on 27/02/2016 09:57

There was one of the meetings at one of the hotels in Strathclyde Park a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I was tied up that day and could not go so do not know if it was well supported but if not that might be the problem.

It was well attended, rather dominated by centre members but not a major issue. I would be happy to support such an event again though would like to have had more chance to hear from the regional sites manager on subjects like underinvestment at Craigie and Balbirnie.

My gripe was the fact that there was too much banter between centre members and not enough time getting down to brass tacks.

My better half felt, and this is a personal opinion off course, though as a member one she is entitled to, that the back slapping and folks with their wee badges of office on was very off putting. As a life long user of the CC like myself she felt any new members who attended could have been put off thinking that this is all the CC is about ... We off course knew different!

Write your comments here...Good post Ian, It was a good well attended event. The rallyists did try and take over but there were enough normal CC members to point some of the questions in a sensible direction.

Pity the event is never to be repeated but the CC has made their decision and we will all have to accept it. 

 

K

Navigateur replied on 27/02/2016 11:10

Posted on 27/02/2016 11:10

Having read all of this thread (I think - but not all at once) there are a couple of things I do not understand.

Each event is organised by members from the local area who have to do things like risk assessments, negotiating terms, and all the arrangements. So we have seperate teams of people throughout the land all having to learn the same skills without any co-ordination of competence or standard, or learning from others' experience.

No UK wide rates on meeting facilities or accomodation.

No UK wide caravaning organisation offering reduced rates on a site (in quiet times) for people attending.

There are people who like organising gatherings such as have been described but it is not everyone's hobby. Most of us on here want to go caravaning in some form, not meeting arranging as we may not have the personality for that sort of thing. I wonder how we might attract such "meeting arrangers" to join our happy band where they could be let loose to fulfil themselves on what they enjoy doing.

Dare I say that there may be amongs the rallying part of our great fraternity a few who can take pleasure both in arranging gatherings and caravaning?

JCB4X4 replied on 27/02/2016 11:11

Posted on 27/02/2016 11:11


... but the CC has made their decision and we will all have to accept it. 

 

K

K

Despite all the evidence posted by others on here throughout, that contradicts your conclusion that this is a Top-Down decision.

You choose to ignore it:

No-matter how many others you may convince by simply repeating yourself;

It will not make this true.

JVB66 replied on 27/02/2016 16:30

Posted on 27/02/2016 16:30

At guess ,I,would think it was a idea from the membership/sites committee's financed by membership fees?

Kennine replied on 28/02/2016 08:35

Posted on 28/02/2016 08:35

Surely a decision is "top down" when Head Office decides to let (make?) the troops do it?

Write your comments here...I have to agree with that - good post.  

And yet there are  those who still think that the organisation of those events are somehow not any responsibility of the CC. 

 

K

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