Not moving with the times

Del Sandy replied on 21/08/2020 12:37

Posted on 21/08/2020 12:37

This club could be fantastic, if only it was to listen to its members, some reasons below;

1. Very slow website, cannot find a website as slow as this one, even ones you do not have to pay for!

2. Inability to search for fully serviced pitches (perhaps because they do not have many)

3. Being superseded by free forums such as Adults only caravan sites on Facebook

4. Wasting money, why does the club not ask all members if they need a magazine, I would have been happy to have an electronic version, also helping the environment

5. With all my posts asking for reasons for these issues not being addressed and approaching the site directly no action has been taken, or even reasons why they cannot

I have enjoyed the discussions on the site and interestingly my concerns have been covered several times by others. Note the times I go on the website has to be on off peak times due to the slow website.

It is sad that I will not be renewing my membership, as I do not intend to pay for membership where there is no official feedback from the club when issues are raised.

Hopefully I will rejoin when basic issues are sorted out.

Kind Regards

Derek

 

Cornersteady replied on 26/08/2020 08:46

Posted on 26/08/2020 08:46

The Camping and Caravanning Club started in 1901 as the Association of Cycle Campers.[1] Thomas Hiram Holding, one of the founders, is considered by many to be the father of modern camping. He also founded the Bicycle Touring Club in 1878, which became Cyclists' Touring Club, now renamed Cycling UK.[2] Holding wrote The Campers Handbook in 1908, to share his enthusiasm for the great outdoors. His love of camping derived from his experiences as a boy, which dated back to the mid-1800s.[3]

In 1906 the Association of Cycle Campers (now The Camping and Caravanning Club) opened its first camping site, in Weybridge. By that time the organisation had several hundred members. In 1909 the association split into three separate organisations, which joined again in 1910 as the National Camping Club. Two more name changes followed, in 1919 (The Camping Club of Great Britain and Ireland) and in 1983

1983 then?

SteveL replied on 26/08/2020 09:40

Posted on 26/08/2020 09:40

The name change was just an acknowledgment of the increasing number of MH's,  achieved at considerable expense.☹️ I thought the sites always were very suitable for MH's, with the ability to book only one night if required and a fair number of generally level pitches, so no need to mess about with ramps.

There have been a few more nods in the MH direction with the speeding up of gridded waste disposal. Even if its design leaves something to be desired. Also about the same time diagrams were added to the site plans with wording stating either way in was OK. Yes I know it was OK before, but was never made that obvious. The direction issue is perhaps more applicable to MH's as an aid to front / back levelling.

The only real thing missing is the ability to book a hardstanding, unless it's a service pitch. This would be particularly useful in the shoulder months, when grass may still be in use. Otherwise you can't really arrive late on for fear of ending up on soft grass.

replied on 26/08/2020 09:59

Posted on 25/08/2020 19:53 by

Agree absolutely. When the Club's  name changed I thought that motorhomers would be catered for in the way many of us like to tour. Being able to arrive and not have to "book in", but have some kind of prearranged payment or  barrier card affair, allowing us to arrive later would be a start - the kind of Quick Stop (to use peedee's phrase) touring we enjoy elsewhere.

No idea why you thought that WTG. 

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Posted on 26/08/2020 08:36 by JVB66

How many yeras ago did the camping club change their name by adding""and caravan"wink

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Cornersteady replied on 26/08/2020 10:24

Posted on 26/08/2020 09:40 by SteveL

The name change was just an acknowledgment of the increasing number of MH's,  achieved at considerable expense.☹️ I thought the sites always were very suitable for MH's, with the ability to book only one night if required and a fair number of generally level pitches, so no need to mess about with ramps.

There have been a few more nods in the MH direction with the speeding up of gridded waste disposal. Even if its design leaves something to be desired. Also about the same time diagrams were added to the site plans with wording stating either way in was OK. Yes I know it was OK before, but was never made that obvious. The direction issue is perhaps more applicable to MH's as an aid to front / back levelling.

The only real thing missing is the ability to book a hardstanding, unless it's a service pitch. This would be particularly useful in the shoulder months, when grass may still be in use. Otherwise you can't really arrive late on for fear of ending up on soft grass.

Posted on 26/08/2020 10:24

Yes,I agree even for me with a caravan booking a HS pitch has always been a priority and I don't go to sites where this cannot be guaranteed.

replied on 26/08/2020 10:31

Posted on 26/08/2020 09:59 by

Why??? It was a passing thought only. No more than that. When I saw the name change I suppose it fleetingly passed across my mind that someone in the Club, maybe, had been to Europe and saw how the system, worked on some sites there: not necessarily Aires, but overnight quick stops for motorhomers where the pitches may be outside the main gate and there is a reduced pitch fee for arrival after, say 8pm and early departures. Or maybe some kind of barrier card system or prepayment to save having to arrive earlier than the cut off.  It was no more than a passing thought.

It’s not going to happen. Be great if it would, but I do not want to campaign to change things to “suit myself”. I cannot be bothered. Anymore than I can be bothered to campaign for Aires or to fret about the booking system with this Club, or the other Club, or bother about anything that people get exercised about on camping related Forums in general. If I cared that much I would do my best to get elected to whatever membership committee does what.

I go along with what we have in the UK and work around things, having the flexibility of both a motorhome and a caravan.

Hopefully, it will not be too long before we will be freer to travel “over there”, where booking ahead and lack of quick stops for motorhomers is not something we have to “work around”.

Meanwhile, here, I book what I can, when and where I can, and sometimes use the caravan in preference to the motorhome. (Last week - motorhome. Today we are off in the caravan for a few nights as that suits us for this trip.)

 

Posted on 26/08/2020 10:31

Hi WTG, the 'why' was because I never expected a fundamental change. 

replied on 26/08/2020 10:33

Posted on 26/08/2020 10:31 by

Hi WTG, the 'why' was because I never expected a fundamental change. 

Posted on 26/08/2020 10:33

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replied on 26/08/2020 10:48

Posted on 26/08/2020 09:40 by SteveL

The name change was just an acknowledgment of the increasing number of MH's,  achieved at considerable expense.☹️ I thought the sites always were very suitable for MH's, with the ability to book only one night if required and a fair number of generally level pitches, so no need to mess about with ramps.

There have been a few more nods in the MH direction with the speeding up of gridded waste disposal. Even if its design leaves something to be desired. Also about the same time diagrams were added to the site plans with wording stating either way in was OK. Yes I know it was OK before, but was never made that obvious. The direction issue is perhaps more applicable to MH's as an aid to front / back levelling.

The only real thing missing is the ability to book a hardstanding, unless it's a service pitch. This would be particularly useful in the shoulder months, when grass may still be in use. Otherwise you can't really arrive late on for fear of ending up on soft grass.

Posted on 26/08/2020 10:48

The only real thing missing is the ability to book a hardstanding, unless it's a service pitch. This would be particularly useful in the shoulder months, when grass may still be in use. Otherwise you can't really arrive late on for fear of ending up on soft grass.

I am ambivalent. I do not want grass on a mixed surface site at all. I check percentage of grass pitches and some sites I will not book if the percentage of grass pitches is say 25%. On the mixed pitch sites I have never failed to get hard standing in the last 15 years. If hard standing was bookable that would not trouble me as if all booked I would go elsewhere

peedee replied on 26/08/2020 10:50

Posted on 26/08/2020 10:50

It’s not going to happen. Be great if it would, but I do not want to campaign to change things to “suit myself”. I cannot be bothered. Anymore than I can be bothered to campaign for Aires or to fret about the booking system with this Club, or the other Club, or bother about anything that people get exercised about on camping related Forums in general. If I cared that much I would do my best to get elected to whatever membership committee does what.

Never say never WTG... but I do agree with the above. There are changes I would like to see and they don't only apply to the Club but I am in the sunset of my vanning years and I am certainly not bothered if they don't happen in my time. I rarely tour in this country but if is forced on me in the future then there are many ways of doing so without using full fat sites.

peedee

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