Refillable Gas Systems

Pippah45 replied on 08/08/2017 15:09

Posted on 08/08/2017 15:09

Ok here goes - being a Safefill owner that is the one I know most about and I like it because I can see the level of gas - it is lightweight and the saving over the price of Calorlite is substantial if you are a heavy user.  It makes even more sense to use a refillable if you are going across the water as you can refill there - whereas Calor is not obtainable (not anywhere I have been anyway).  There were three sizes but the grapevine said the smallest has been discontinued. 

There is also Gaslow which until I saw a recent post I thought was a permanent fixed refillable probably more convenient for a Motorhomer, but I see they have free standing cylinders too.  When I looked at Gaslow it appeared to be far more expensive to set up for a caravanner than Safefill - but I could have been looking in the wrong place. 

Gasit - is another I believe but I know nothing about it. 

OrionCalls replied on 03/11/2017 11:13

Posted on 03/11/2017 11:13

DSB

You’ve written We've been known to use the cadac and the caravan oven the same time, and I don't like using the BBQ point on the side of the 'van

Can I ask , is there a particular reason for not using the exterior BBQ point?

I use both the oven, gas hob and the exterior BBQ point for the Cadac quite regularly at the same time

DSB replied on 04/11/2017 12:03

Posted on 03/11/2017 10:40 by JVB66

Calor lite have not been withdrawn unless faulty, they are just not manufacturing any more ,so a supply will be available for the the forseable future,it may mean less available,until the next generation of lightweight are available 

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:03

Yes.  But I have not seen any available at several of our local stockists, so I suspect they are difficult to come by.

David 

DSB replied on 04/11/2017 12:13

Posted on 03/11/2017 11:13 by OrionCalls

DSB

 

You’ve written We've been known to use the cadac and the caravan oven the same time, and I don't like using the BBQ point on the side of the 'van

Can I ask , is there a particular reason for not using the exterior BBQ point?

I use both the oven, gas hob and the exterior BBQ point for the Cadac quite regularly at the same time

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:13

I'm not a fan of using the BBC point.  I like the flexibility on moving the gas bottle (next to the cadac) exactly where I want it on the pitch according to the lie of the land, the wind by direction (shelter etc), position of other units/ cars etc.  I don't like long pipes trailing, as we don't trust ourselves and find them a trip hazard.  We also have a dog on a lead which can cause tangle problems.  Just my preference.

David 

DSB replied on 04/11/2017 12:48

Posted on 03/11/2017 10:53 by

Weight is why I carry two 3.9kg bottles - that and ease of handling. Weight for the 2 full is 20kg. (That also adds around 10kg to noseweight I think from memory). 

Full 10kg safefill is 15kg. If you are talking a second bottle where is the weight saving David? 

JVB uses one 6kg bottle and a bit in 130 weeks. I use a little less than one and a half  3.9kg bottles in 120 weeks and so very similar. For a low user I only see the Safefill lower weight as being useful if you insist on carrying twice as much gas as you will use in a year of touring. smile

I have similar views regarding Calorlite

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:48

At the moment, I use 2 x 6kg calorlite, one which is connected to the caravan, the other which I remove from the gas compartment when I want to use it on the cadac.  These weigh 10.52kg each (total 21.04kg) when full.  The 3.9kg bottle weighs in as between 9-10.5kg according to my efforts on Google a few moments ago.  So 2 x 3.9kg is another option.

We do use a lot of gas with the cadac and wouldn't be really happy in taking any less than a full bottle of 3.9 into Europe for a 7 week stint - and that may well be cutting it fine for us.

Another option is to keep a 3.9kg and to go for a 7.5 safefill that weighs in at 11.5kg.  That wouldn't be a million miles away with the weight (at between 20.5-22kg) and giving me a max of 11.4kg of gas (as opposed to 12kg) and the flexibility of filling up.

I may have talked myself Into this configuration....

David

replied on 04/11/2017 12:54

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:54

Another option is to keep a 3.9kg and to go for a 7.5 safefill that weighs in at 11.5kg. That wouldn't be a million miles away with weight (At between 20.5-22kg) and giving me a max of 11.4kg of gas (as opposed to 12kg) and the flexibility of filling up.

 

Seems a far more sensible option to me David

replied on 04/11/2017 12:57

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:57

JVB uses one 6kg bottle and a bit in 130 weeks. I use a little less than one and a half 3.9kg bottles in 120 weeks

Hope you spotted my mistake! Should be 130 and 120 nights .... not weeks!!

 

young thomas replied on 04/11/2017 13:34

Posted on 04/11/2017 13:34

David, i agree with your thinking...

sounds like the gas bottle for the Cadac is the one that you need the flexibility on....ie, you use plenty of gas for outdoor cooking when away in Europe.

so, with the appropriate adaptor, this should give you piece of mind, when away, that with a GPL pump at many FRench supermarkets or at loads of Spanish filling stations, there will always be enough gas to burn the sausages...wink

as a by product, the Safefill could always work as back up, should you run out on your 'main' (smaller) bottle...

Boff replied on 04/11/2017 15:00

Posted on 03/11/2017 08:56 by DSB

Thanks Boff.  We have a Bailey Unicorn 3 Valencia (2016).  Any info. would be useful.  

We only use gas for cooking as we're on EHU all the time and are not ralliers.  We have another 3 nights away later on in the month and if we manage to get away in December it will probably be a miracle as the diary gets hectic. wink

Thanks

David

 

Posted on 04/11/2017 15:00

The consensus of opinions here is that a safefill and a Calor 6kg will fit in a U3 gas locker. The person next us has an original safefill and a Calor light in his.  I don’t think that the original bottle was any slimmer than the current one.  Ironically there is raffle here first prize is a safefill bottle. 

JVB66 replied on 04/11/2017 15:10

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:48 by DSB

At the moment, I use 2 x 6kg calorlite, one which is connected to the caravan, the other which I remove from the gas compartment when I want to use it on the cadac.  These weigh 10.52kg each (total 21.04kg) when full.  The 3.9kg bottle weighs in as between 9-10.5kg according to my efforts on Google a few moments ago.  So 2 x 3.9kg is another option.

We do use a lot of gas with the cadac and wouldn't be really happy in taking any less than a full bottle of 3.9 into Europe for a 7 week stint - and that may well be cutting it fine for us.

Another option is to keep a 3.9kg and to go for a 7.5 safefill that weighs in at 11.5kg.  That wouldn't be a million miles away with the weight (at between 20.5-22kg) and giving me a max of 11.4kg of gas (as opposed to 12kg) and the flexibility of filling up.

I may have talked myself Into this configuration....

David

Posted on 04/11/2017 15:10

The tare weight of each calor cylinder is on the loose metal collar round the valve and is not, as all metal cylinders the same on each cylinder

DSB replied on 04/11/2017 16:18

Posted on 04/11/2017 13:34 by young thomas

David, i agree with your thinking...

sounds like the gas bottle for the Cadac is the one that you need the flexibility on....ie, you use plenty of gas for outdoor cooking when away in Europe.

so, with the appropriate adaptor, this should give you piece of mind, when away, that with a GPL pump at many FRench supermarkets or at loads of Spanish filling stations, there will always be enough gas to burn the sausages...wink

as a by product, the Safefill could always work as back up, should you run out on your 'main' (smaller) bottle...

Posted on 04/11/2017 16:18

Exactly my thinking BB.

David 

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